Calculating Average Speed: Mobile's Trip

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The problem involves calculating the average speed of a mobile traveling a specified distance with different speeds for different segments. The first segment is 10% of the total distance at a speed of 10 m/s, while the remaining 90% is at 30 m/s. Participants are discussing the average speed calculation and the correctness of the provided answer key.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the time taken for each segment of the trip and how to combine these to find the average speed. Some question the validity of the answer key, while others suggest that the calculations leading to 25 m/s are correct.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved in determining average speed. Some participants have provided their reasoning and calculations, while others have raised questions about the accuracy of the answer key and the units used in the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the units of speed provided in the problem, specifically the notation used for v1. Additionally, participants are considering the implications of the answer key's correctness.

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Homework Statement


A mobile is moving straight as following: the first portion of the road, equal to 10% of the total distance with the speed v1=10/s , and the rest with the speed v2=30m/s.
The average speed for the entire trip is?
a)25m/s b)22.5m/s c)20m/s d)15m/s


Homework Equations



\Delta v = \frac{\Delta d}{\Delta t}

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the times passed for both distances, replaced them in the average speed's formula and got 25 m/s, which is a wrong answer according to the key.
 
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I think the key is wrong. The correct approach is as you described: calculate the time needed for each portion, add them together, and divide the total distance by the total time.

First part: dist = .1D, rate = 10 m/sec, time = .1D/(10 m/sec) = .01D
Second part: dist = .9D, rate = 30 m/sec, time = .9D/(30 m/sec) = .03D

Average speed = (total distance) / (total time) = D/(.01D + .03D) = D/.04D = 1/.04 = 25 m/sec.
 
BTW, the equation you show as relevant is meaningless. dv is differential velocity and d/dt is the differentiation with respect to t operator. The first represents some quantity and the second indicates an operation to perform.
 
Thanks for the answer
And sry for that dv/dt part, i wanted to type the greek letter delta and i didn't know whether tex codes are active or not.
 
Yes, they are active. For the upper case delta (looks like a triangle), use \Delta
\Delta v = \frac{\Delta d}{\Delta t}
 
rAz:DD said:

Homework Statement


A mobile is moving straight as following: the first portion of the road, equal to 10% of the total distance with the speed v1=10/s , and the rest with the speed v2=30m/s.
The average speed for the entire trip is?
a)25m/s b)22.5m/s c)20m/s d)15m/s
Say the road is 100 m long. Then 10% is 10 m and, at 10 m/s, that requires 1 second. The second part is 90 m long and, at 30 m/s, that requires 3 seconds, making a total of 100 m in 4 seconds. That is an average speed of 25 m/s.


Homework Equations



\Delta v = \frac{\Delta d}{\Delta t}

The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the times passed for both distances, replaced them in the average speed's formula and got 25 m/s, which is a wrong answer according to the key.
What answer does the key give?
 
The problem is here

v1=10/s

It's probably some really exotic unit of distance that was left out.

In other news, I'll second (or fourth at this point) the 25m/s crowd
 

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