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The discussion focuses on calculating the average temperature inside a hot air balloon, given a total mass of 500 kg for the unfilled balloon and payload. Participants utilize Archimedes' principle and the ideal gas law to derive the relationship between the forces acting on the balloon. The key equations established include the upward force equating to the downward force, leading to the equation mp + ρhot-airV = ρairV. The conversation highlights the need for pressure information to effectively apply the ideal gas law in this context.

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Homework Statement


Estimate the average temperature inside a hot-air balloon. Assume that the total mass of the unfilled balloon and payload, which we will all call mp is 500kg.


Homework Equations


Archimedes principle, ideal gas law ...


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay I'm not really sure how to understand the question, but my guess is that they want the temperature of a balloon which is hanging in the air. In this case it it clear that the upwards force equals the downwards force, i.e.:

(1) Fup = mpg + ρhot-airVg

here V is the volume of the balloon which we would have to estimate ourselves and ρhot-air the density of the hot air.
From archimedes principle we know that the upwards force equals:
(2) FupairVg
So equating (1) and (2) gives:

mpg + ρhot-airVg=ρairVg
\Leftrightarrow
mp + ρhot-airV=ρairV

Now what can I do from here? I tried applying the ideal gas law, as it gives us a connection between V and T, which we want. However that failed, since I'd then have to know the pressure. Is this approach even right?

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You wrote,

"Fup = mpg + ρhot-airVg"

I think this might be more accurate?

Fup = - mpg + (ρ_air - ρ_hot-air)Vg
 

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