Calculating Ball Height and Time with Quadratic Formula

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height and time of a ball thrown straight upward, described by the quadratic equation h = -16t^2 + 96t. Participants explore how to determine the time it takes for the ball to land and the times at which the ball reaches a height of 80 feet, addressing the implications of multiple solutions for the latter question.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests letting h = 0 to find the time when the ball lands, indicating a need to solve for t.
  • Another participant confirms the approach for both parts A and B, emphasizing the need to solve for t in both cases.
  • A later reply proposes rearranging the height equation into a standard quadratic form to facilitate finding t for any given height, using the quadratic formula.
  • This participant also notes that the maximum height of the ball is 144 feet, occurring at t = 3 seconds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method to solve for the time when the ball reaches specific heights, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the two solutions for part B regarding the height of 80 feet.

Contextual Notes

There is an implicit assumption that the quadratic formula is applicable without addressing potential limitations or the conditions under which it is valid. The discussion does not resolve the implications of the two solutions for the height of 80 feet.

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A ball is thrown straight upward. Suppose that the height of the ball at time t is h = -16t^2 + 96t, where h is in feet and t is in seconds, with t = 0 corresponding to the instant the ball is first tossed.

A. How long does it take for the ball to land?

To do A, I must let h = 0 and solve for t, right?

B. At what time is the height 80 feet? Why does B have two answers?

To do B, I must let h = 80 and solve for t, right?
 
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RTCNTC said:
A ball is thrown straight upward. Suppose that the height of the ball at time t is h = -16t^2 + 96t, where h is in feet and t is in seconds, with t = 0 corresponding to the instant the ball is first tossed.

A. How long does it take for the ball to land?

To do A, I must let h = 0 and solve for t, right?

B. At what time is the height 80 feet? Why does B have two answers?

To do B, I must let h = 80 and solve for t, right?

Yes that is what you need to do for both.
 
Good. I will answer both parts tonight.
 
Since you are asked multiple questions regarding finding the time when the ball is a certain height, what I recommend is solving the given relation between height $h$ and time $t$ for $t$, so that you then have a formula to use. We are given:

$$h=-16t^2+96t$$

Arrange this as:

$$16t^2-96t+h=0$$

Now use the quadratic formula to obtain:

$$t=\frac{12\pm\sqrt{144-h}}{4}$$

Now it's just a matter of plugging in any given height to find the time when that height occurs, rather than having to solve a quadratic equation every time a new height is introduced. We can also easily see that the maximum height is 144 and occurs at time $t=3$. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Since you are asked multiple questions regarding finding the time when the ball is a certain height, what I recommend is solving the given relation between height $h$ and time $t$ for $t$, so that you then have a formula to use. We are given:

$$h=-16t^2+96t$$

Arrange this as:

$$16t^2-96t+h=0$$

Now use the quadratic formula to obtain:

$$t=\frac{12\pm\sqrt{144-h}}{4}$$

Now it's just a matter of plugging in any given height to find the time when that height occurs, rather than having to solve a quadratic equation every time a new height is introduced. We can also easily see that the maximum height is 144 and occurs at time $t=3$. :D

Nicely done. You created an equation similar to the quadratic formula.
 

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