Calculating diameter of a filter using only flow rate

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The discussion revolves around calculating the diameter of a water filter using only the flow rate, inlet water pressure, and the diameter of the piping. Participants explore the relationship between these variables and the challenges involved in deriving a formula for the filter size.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in calculating the diameter of a water filter based solely on flow rate, pipe diameter, and inlet pressure.
  • Another participant notes that determining the pressure difference across a filter in relation to flow rate is complex and likely requires experimental data specific to the filter type.
  • A participant questions whether the study falls under fluid dynamics, given that the filter is made of iron and steel, which may not fit porous filter equations.
  • It is suggested that filter suppliers provide data on pressure drop versus flow rate, which could aid in establishing an effective orifice area for calculations.
  • One participant mentions that suppliers typically provide a K value to determine pressure loss across the filter, which can be used in a specific equation involving pressure head and fluid velocity.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to apply the mentioned equation in the context of calculating the filter diameter based on water supply pressure and consumption rate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific formula or method for calculating the filter diameter, and multiple competing views on the approach to take remain present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific filter characteristics, the need for experimental data, and the potential complexity of fluid dynamics involved in the calculations.

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i have got a problem with a calculation involving a filter, i hope you all with lend me a helping hand.

to calculate a diameter of a cylinder is rather easy, but how to determine the size of the water filter knowing only the flow rate of the pipe, diameter of the piping and the pressure of the inlet water

i hope there will be a formula to calculate it to make it easier.
 
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To know the pressure difference across a filter with respect flow rate is not going to be a trivial equation. You would need to know the type and specifications of the filter and this relation would probably be based on experiment. You could model the filter as a porous plug perhaps which equations do exist for.
 
but the filter is made of iron and steel, so i don't think it will fixed the equation, since it is about the porous one. can i know is this a study of fluid dynamic or anything else?
 
Along the lines of what Topher mentioned, if you go through a filter supplier of any kind, they will supply the deta P across their product vs flowrate. You may be able, with some flow testing, to establish an effictive orifice area that would simulate your filter and make the calculations easier.
 
From my experience (not much), suppliers usually only give you a K value to determine your pressure across the filter. This is a similar value to what suppliers will give with valves, elbows, and other components that will create a drop in pressure. That is, the K is to be used in the equation;

gH = KV2/2

Where;
g = gravity
H = pressure head
K = loss coefficient (given by supplier)
V = Velocity of the fluid
 
so, how can i apply this equation?
as a clerk in a wastewater company, i am responsible in calculating the best fit size of the water filter(basically to find the diameter) by knowing only the pressure of the water supply and the water consumption rate of either a condominium or something else.
i find it hard to relate each of this variable as i think there is a formula to calculate it accurately.
 

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