Calculating Displacement of X and Y with Water-Filled Container

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The discussion revolves around calculating the displacement of water in a container when a 10 kg object is submerged. The participants explore principles related to fluid mechanics, particularly focusing on pressure and displacement in a water-filled container connected to a pipe.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to calculate the displacements X and Y based on the weight of the submerged object and the resulting water displacement. Some participants question the relationship between the weight of the object and the volume of water displaced, while others explore the pressure exerted by the object on the fluid.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing calculations related to pressure and height of water columns. There is a mix of agreement and disagreement on the correctness of the calculations presented, and further exploration of the relationship between displacements X and Y is suggested.

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Participants are discussing the implications of pressure and volume displacement without reaching a consensus on the correct relationship between X and Y. There are references to specific figures and calculations that may not be fully detailed in the thread.

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NO TEMPLATE BECAUSE ORIGIONALLY SUBMIIED TO NON-homework forumHi,

I have a pipe connects to a container's outlet. The container contains water and the pipe is open-ended. When a 10Kg object is placed inside the container and compress the water. Can you tell me how to calculate the displacement of X and Y? What principle or formula should I use?
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Thanks,
 
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What is your assessment so far?
 
Chestermiller said:
What is your assessment so far?
Someone told me the "extra" water weight inside the pipe will be equal to the weight of the 10kg object. (it seems make sense)

10kg = 0.01 cubic meters of water.
Using Vol to cal the cylinder height:
X = 127.48m
Y = 0.32m

Is that correct?
 
bbd001 said:
Someone told me the "extra" water weight inside the pipe will be equal to the weight of the 10kg object. (it seems make sense)

10kg = 0.01 cubic meters of water.
Using Vol to cal the cylinder height:
X = 127.48m
Y = 0.32m

Is that correct?
No. This is not correct.

In Fig. B, what is the pressure that the piston (located beneath the 10 kg mass) exerts on the fluid immediately below it (neglecting the weight of the piston)?
 
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Chestermiller said:
No. This is not correct.

In Fig. B, what is the pressure that the 10 kg mass exerts on the piston?
F = ma = 10kg * 9.8 = 98N
P = F/A = 98/(3.14 * 0.1 * 0.1) = 3121 Pascals
 
bbd001 said:
F = ma = 10kg * 9.8 = 98N
P = F/A = 98/(3.14 * 0.1 * 0.1) = 3121 Pascals
Excellent. Now, in terms of X and Y, what is the height of the water in the left column (of B) above the level of the piston? Algebraically, in term so of X and Y, what is the fluid pressure in this column at the same level as the piston?
 
Chestermiller said:
Excellent. Now, in terms of X and Y, what is the height of the water in the left column (of B) above the level of the piston? Algebraically, in term so of X and Y, what is the fluid pressure in this column at the same level as the piston?
P = ρgh
h = P/ρg
= 3121 Pa / (997 kg/m³ * 9.8)
= 0.32m

So the pressure from the 10Kg can only push the X, 0.32m upward instead of 127.48m. Is that correct?
 
bbd001 said:
P = ρgh
h = P/ρg
= 3121 Pa / (997 kg/m³ * 9.8)
= 0.32m

So the pressure from the 10Kg can only push the X, 0.32m upward instead of 127.48m. Is that correct?
Not quite. That is (X + Y)=0.32 m
Since the volume displaced upward in the left column must equal to the volume displaced downward in the right column, how are X and Y related?
 

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