Calculating divergence as a function of radius

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The discussion centers around calculating the divergence of various radially symmetrical fields as a function of radius. Participants explore different types of fields, including constant fields and those inversely proportional to the radius and its powers. The context appears to be homework-related, with participants seeking clarification and guidance on the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Caleb, presents a question about calculating divergence for fields with different dependencies on radius, expressing confusion about the task.
  • Another participant points out that Caleb's initial example is a scalar field, not a vector field, and suggests that a proper vector field should be used, such as the vector field proportional to the radius.
  • Caleb asks for clarification on how to find the appropriate fields and whether any symmetric field can be used.
  • A subsequent reply emphasizes the need for fields that meet specific criteria: constant with respect to radius, inversely proportional to the radius, and so forth.
  • Another participant provides a suggestion for expressing a vector field and prompts Caleb to look up the divergence expression in cylindrical coordinates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to identify appropriate vector fields for the divergence calculation. However, there is no consensus on the specific fields to use, and some uncertainty remains regarding the definitions and properties of the fields discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of vector and scalar fields, as well as the specific forms of the fields required for the divergence calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about the material covered in lectures, indicating potential gaps in understanding.

Caleb Jones
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Hey guys

Question:
Calculate the divergence as a function of radius for each of the following radially
symmetrical fields in which the magnitude of the field vector:
(a) is constant;
(b) is inversely proportional to the radius;
(c) is inversely proportional to the square of the radius;
(d) is inversely proportional to the cube of the radius.

Im completely stumped on this question...
What I've got so far: (None of this was provided in the question)
Radial field:
V = 1/r2 (Vector "r")
Divergence of a spherical Shell:

div F = ∇⋅F

Flux through a spherical shell:
∅ = ∫ E.dA ---> E Constant
∅ = E ∫ dA
∅ = E×4(pi)×r2

Im not sure if I'm on the right path here though

Cheers
Caleb
 
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Caleb Jones said:
Radial field:
V = 1/r2 (Vector "r")
That is a scalar field, not a vector field. A vector field could be ##\vec F = \vec r##, for example.
You'll have to find the correct fields first.
 
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mfb said:
That is a scalar field, not a vector field. A vector field could be ##\vec F = \vec r##, for example.
You'll have to find the correct fields first.
Thank you mfb
How do I find these fields?
Can I just use any symmetric field?
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, this hasn't been explained in lectures or in our lecture notes
 
Caleb Jones said:
Can I just use any symmetric field?
You'll need a field that is (a) constant with r, (b) inversely proportional to the radius, and so on. The field I gave as example is proportional to the radius.
 
Follow post #4 to get your 4 fields. His example (field proportional to r) could also be written F = k1 r with r as the unit vector so Fr = k1 where F = Fr r.

What is the expression for ∇⋅ F for cylindrical coordinates? Look it up most anywhere. Rest is a gimme.
 

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