Calculating Earth's Energy Loss and Temperature Increase Due to Solar Radiation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Earth's energy loss and temperature increase due to solar radiation. Participants explore the relationship between solar energy input, energy loss through radiation, and the resulting temperature changes in the Earth's atmosphere.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on the appropriate equations to calculate the energy loss through radiation based on given solar energy and surface area data.
  • Another participant suggests that while the Earth gains heat from solar energy, it also loses heat through radiation, leading to a smaller temperature increase than expected.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that the Earth's atmosphere does not store energy, as solar energy is absorbed by the surface and then re-radiated back into space.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of the temperature increase stated in the problem, questioning its significance given the small value of 10-6 °C.
  • It is noted that the Earth's mass is substantial, but only a thin layer of the surface experiences heating, while the majority of the energy received from the sun is radiated away.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the temperature increase and the energy balance of the Earth. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the temperature change or the energy dynamics involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding the definitions of terms used, such as the significance of the temperature increase and the assumptions about energy storage in the atmosphere.

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If the amount of solar energy striking the outer edge of the earth’s atmosphere is approximately 1.4 kW/m2 and the amount of the earth’s surface area exposed to the sunlight is 1.6 x 10E13 m2, how much energy does the Earth lose through radiation within each 24 hours? The average Earth atmosphere temperature increases within the same period is 10-6 oC, the average specific heat of Earth is 100 J/kg-oC, and the earth’s mass is 6 x 10E24 kg.

im stuck over here, what equation that we need to use to solve this problem?

thanks in advance
 
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Hi! Here's what I think...

Basically, when solar energy strikes the outer edge of the Earth's atmosphere, the Earth will gain heat energy (first set of data) and its temperature will increase. However, this increase is not as large as it should be (second set of data), because the Earth also loses heat energy through radiation.

Now, do you understand how the problem should be solved?

By the way, what does the "10-6" in 10-6 oC mean?
 
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Basically the Earth's atmosphere is not heating up or storing energy. The light travels through the atmosphere strikes the surface and is radiated outward to space, again through the atmosphere.

There is a power flux (kW/m2) and a surface area (m2) which yields power. Now if the atmosphere does not store energy and the Earth's surface does not increase in temperature, then balance of energy means that most energy is re-radiated to space. One can assume that the atmosphere is relatively thin compared to the radius of the earth.

The 1.4 kW/m2 should be based on flux normal to surface, so that one should use the projected area of the Earth (with respect to the sun), not the surface area of a hemisphere.
 
Thanks for the explanation, but why does the question say that "the average Earth atmosphere temperature increases"?
 
The average Earth atmosphere temperature increases within the same period is 10-6 °C
This is not much of an increase - therefore it is effectively unchanged. Note that is states average, so the temperature could cycle between 'hot' and 'cold' about some average temperature which does not change during the cycle. So the atmosphere does heat up in sunlight, then cools off in the dark.

The mass of the Earth is huge, but the whole Earth does not heat up, only a small layer of the Earth's surface does. But effectively, the Earth radiates most of the energy received from the sun.
 

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