Calculating temperature increase in a building as a result of solar radiation

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The discussion centers around calculating the temperature increase in a building due to solar radiation, particularly focusing on the thermal balance and energy gains from solar exposure. Participants explore theoretical calculations, practical implications, and the influence of building materials and insulation on temperature changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates a temperature increase of 94 K based on energy gains of 20 kW for a poorly insulated building, questioning the validity of this result.
  • Another participant suggests neglecting the air's heat capacity, arguing that the mass of the building materials will dominate the total heat capacity.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of considering heat loss mechanisms and the heat capacity of walls and contents in real buildings.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of air exchange and how it affects heating calculations, with some noting that open windows can significantly alter indoor temperatures.
  • One participant mentions the need for insulation and shading to manage solar heat gains effectively, particularly for specific applications like indoor pools.
  • A participant points out a potential misunderstanding regarding the measurement of energy gains, clarifying that energy should be measured in Joules or kWh, not kW.
  • Some participants reference the availability of computer programs for simulating thermal performance in buildings, suggesting resources for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of air's heat capacity compared to that of building materials, and there is no consensus on the best approach to accurately calculate temperature increases due to solar radiation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these factors on practical heating scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their calculations, including assumptions about insulation, heat loss mechanisms, and the impact of ventilation. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of energy measurements and their relevance to thermal calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in building design, energy efficiency, thermal dynamics, and those exploring methods to manage solar heat gains in residential or commercial buildings.

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I'm working on a thermal balance of a building. In particular, I'm trying to calculate the effect energy gains (mostly due to solar radiation) have on the inside temperature of the building. So I calculated the energy gains per month, for instance, 20 kW for the month of February (it's an extremely poorly insulated building). The only way I know of relating heat, temperature, and mass, is through the equation:

Q=m.cp.dT

where:
- Q is the heat in kJ
- m is the mass of air in kg
- cp is the specific heat of air in kJ/kg.K
- dT is the temperature difference in K

(Note: I'm using the dot to represent thousands and the comma to represent decimals)

So, in one hour, we have 20 kWh, which is 72.000 kJ. For a volume of 637 m3 (the volume of the building) and a density of air of 1,2 kg/m3, we end up having 764 kg of air. If we consider the specific heat of air to be 1,0 kJ/kg.K, then dT is 94 K.

I must admit the number shocked me, so much so that I think I'm doing something wrong. Is there something I'm missing here? Theoretically, if I had a perfectly insulated volume of 637 m3 of air, and I heated it during 1 hour with 20 kW, then it's correct that said volume would experiment a temperature increase of 94°C?

Finally, in the case of a poorly insulated building (it has three sliding-glass walls and a corrugated steel pitched roof), how much could I expect the inside temperature to rise in summer? In other words, how can I accurately calculate temperature increase in a building as a result of solar radiation gains?

Thanks.
 
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You can neglect the air, unless you care about short-term effects from ventilation. The heat capacity of solid materials will dominate the total heat capacity. There is an easy way to see this: The mass of the building itself is much more than 760kg.
 
If you had 20kW worth of central heating and you ran it for an hour, an average house would be 'very cosy' and that would be a real building with many heat loss mechanisms (which are going to lose heat proportional to the temperature difference). After an hour the walls and contents would have started to warm up and the heat capacity of those and all the other contents.

Years ago, I decided to get central heating installed in my home and I estimated the size of radiators needed for each room for a given temperature rise etc, etc. The answer I got was laughably small - until I realized that you need to take air exchange into account. I then got some sensible answers. The guy who did the installation then went and ordered different ones and the house was always very comfortable! So much for theory. (I think he bought the cheapest sizes so I'm not complaining.)
 
mfb said:
You can neglect the air, unless you care about short-term effects from ventilation. The heat capacity of solid materials will dominate the total heat capacity. There is an easy way to see this: The mass of the building itself is much more than 760kg.

What exactly do you mean by, "you can neglect the air"? Heat gains will invariably rise the temperature inside the building, won't they?
 
sophiecentaur said:
If you had 20kW worth of central heating and you ran it for an hour, an average house would be 'very cosy' and that would be a real building with many heat loss mechanisms (which are going to lose heat proportional to the temperature difference). After an hour the walls and contents would have started to warm up and the heat capacity of those and all the other contents.

Okay, so 20kW is not that random a number then. Thanks. :smile:
 
OdanUrr said:
Okay, so 20kW is not that random a number then. Thanks. :smile:

Bearing in mind that rich, nerdy people actually do build themselves houses that need no extra heating, there must be enough solar energy available to your house to keep it warm. That 20kW is certainly in the right ball park.

Going to the situation of high summer in a hot climate, you can expect to have a similar amount of heat to get rid of in order to stay comfortable.
 
sophiecentaur said:
Bearing in mind that rich, nerdy people actually do build themselves houses that need no extra heating, there must be enough solar energy available to your house to keep it warm. That 20kW is certainly in the right ball park.

Going to the situation of high summer in a hot climate, you can expect to have a similar amount of heat to get rid of in order to stay comfortable.

Yes, that's why I'm going to use insulation in the model, to try and see if I can get rid of solar heat gains. I'm trying to create an insulated environment for an indoor pool.
 
OdanUrr said:
What exactly do you mean by, "you can neglect the air"? Heat gains will invariably rise the temperature inside the building, won't they?
Of course. Where is the connection between both?
Heat capacity of buildings is dominated by the heat capacity of the building itself and not its air. The heat capacity of air can be relevant for heating/ventilation.
You can quickly cool (or heat) the air by several degrees if you open a window. But as soon as you close the window again, temperature will quickly return to its previous value (with some very small drop) as the walls heat the air again.
 
mfb said:
Of course. Where is the connection between both?
Heat capacity of buildings is dominated by the heat capacity of the building itself and not its air. The heat capacity of air can be relevant for heating/ventilation.

This is true but only if all the windows are closed! If they are open, you need to consider all the air in the surrounding (and changing) atmosphere. In practical terms this has more effect on your heating bills than anything else.
 
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So I calculated the energy gains per month, for instance, 20 kW for the month of February

Perhaps I'm being picky but..

An "energy gain" is measured in Joules or possibly kWH if you insist. It's not measured in kW, that would be a power gain.

how can I accurately calculate temperature increase in a building as a result of solar radiation gains?

I believe well insulated houses need to incorporate shading to avoid overheating from solar gain. I think there are computer programs available to simulate this but I've not investigated.

If you are getting into this for real I recommend joining The Green Building Forum and posting requests for info on passive houses over there. I think there might be a small one off joining fee but can't remember how much it is.

http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk
 

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