Calculating EMF in Metal Detector Coils

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This problem involves calculating the electromotive force (EMF) induced in a small coil within a metal detector setup, which consists of two concentric circular coils. The larger coil has a specific number of turns and radius, while the smaller coil also has a defined radius and number of turns. The current in the larger coil varies with time, and the problem requires determining the induced EMF at a specific time under the assumption of a uniform magnetic field.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Faraday's Law and the relationship between magnetic flux and induced EMF. Some express their attempts to derive equations for the EMF based on the given parameters, while others question the assumptions made regarding the magnetic field uniformity and the signs in their equations.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants providing equations and others questioning the validity of their approaches. Suggestions for revisiting assumptions and clarifying the signs in the equations have been made, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus on the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of applying Faraday's Law in a specific context, with some expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their derived equations and the implications of negative signs in their calculations. There is also mention of related concepts from other threads that may influence their understanding.

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Can i get some help with this problem?
This problem deals with the basic loop configuration you will use in the laboratory to construct a metal detector. Two concentric circular coils of wire lie in a plane. The larger coil has 49 turns and a radius of a = 7.90 cm. The smaller coil also has 49 turns but has a radius of b = 0.85 cm. The current in the larger coil has a time dependence given by = Io sin(ωt) where ω = 14,000 rad/s and Io = 0.50 A. What is the magnitude of the EMF induced in the small coil at t = 2.00 s if you make the approximation that the magnetic field inside the small coil is spatially uniform?
Thanks in advance.
 
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Show us some attempt to solve the problem. What do you know that you think is relevant to the solution?
 
Are there any hints on this one...I am using Faraday's Law
where EMF = N*(change in flux over change in time). The
magnetic flux is equal to BA, which is the B for the center
of a loop (with radius of the outer circle) times A for the
inner circle...my final equation is coming out something
like this...[(N^2)*Pi*Rb^2*mu*I(nought)*w*cos(w*t)]/(2*Ra)

This is long, but it seems right to me...Any suggestions?
 
the velocity induces an emf, the emf gives a current, and
the current gives a backward force F=ILB, so you can set up
and equation mdv/dt=F=-Cv, for some const C you will get.
am i right? I am still not getting the right answer
 
Sir_Pogo said:
Are there any hints on this one...I am using Faraday's Law
where EMF = N*(change in flux over change in time). The
magnetic flux is equal to BA, which is the B for the center
of a loop (with radius of the outer circle) times A for the
inner circle...my final equation is coming out something
like this...[(N^2)*Pi*Rb^2*mu*I(nought)*w*cos(w*t)]/(2*Ra)

This is long, but it seems right to me...Any suggestions?
This looks OK, although the answer might be looking for a minus because the emf is the negative of the flux derivative.
 
Sir_Pogo said:
the velocity induces an emf, the emf gives a current, and
the current gives a backward force F=ILB, so you can set up
and equation mdv/dt=F=-Cv, for some const C you will get.
am i right? I am still not getting the right answer
I assume this was supposed to go with your other problem. It is right if you get C right. So as it asks in the other thread, what function for v will give you a derivative proportional to v?
 
OlderDan said:
This looks OK, although the answer might be looking for a minus because the emf is the negative of the flux derivative.

I have tried to solved it and got answer in minus more then one time so its might possible. I think you are right...
 

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