Calculating Energy Loss in Pool Table Cushion Collisions Using Hooke's Law

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating energy loss during collisions of a cue ball with a pool table cushion, specifically using Hooke's Law. Participants explore the implications of elasticity and real-world dynamics in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests calculating energy loss using Hooke's Law if the initial velocity and distance of compression are known.
  • Another participant asserts that it is not possible to calculate energy loss using Hooke's Law, as it assumes perfect elasticity with no energy loss.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the inconsistency of cushion behavior across different sections of the rail and the impact of ball spin and impact force on rebound angles.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of mathematically modeling real-life pool table dynamics, suggesting a more experiential approach to understanding the game.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the applicability of Hooke's Law for calculating energy loss in this scenario, with some arguing against its use while others propose it as a potential method. The discussion remains unresolved regarding a definitive approach to modeling these collisions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about elasticity, the complexity of real-world dynamics, and the influence of various factors such as spin and impact force on the outcomes of collisions.

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Hey all,

if a cue ball moving at a certain velocity collides with the side cushion generally the ball will not deflect at a nice angle as the ball would compress into the cushion due to the elasticity of the cushion and energy loss of the ball to the cushion would be reduced. Using Hooke's Law how do i calculate the energy loss of the cue ball if the initial velocity and the distance of compression into the cushion is known. Thanks.
 
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you can't.
 
Hooke's law assumes perfect elasticity: no energy loss at all. You cannot calculate energy loss using Hooke's law
 
As a player, I can tell you that there is almost never any consistency from one section of rail to another. You also have to factor in the spin on the ball. Another important factor is how hard the ball impacts the rail; the harder it hits, the less angle of rebound there is. Really, all that you can do to figure out what happens is trial and error.
 
Real life pool table dynamics is just one of those innumerable things that are too difficult to talk intelligently about (that is, use the language of maths).

Have a beer and just enjoy the game, okay?
 

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