Calculating error in measurements w/ uncertainty

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The problem involves calculating the error in measurements related to the area and circumference of a circle, given a radius with an associated uncertainty. The subject area encompasses error analysis in measurements and the application of uncertainty principles in physics and mathematics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method for calculating error, with some suggesting the use of fractional uncertainties. Questions arise regarding the application of uncertainty in calculations involving powers and the specific steps needed to derive the error in area and circumference.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of uncertainty and error analysis, with some providing references to external resources. There is a mix of confusion and clarification as they explore different interpretations of how to apply the uncertainty values in their calculations.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the proper handling of uncertainties, indicating a need for further clarification on the rules for combining uncertainties in various mathematical operations.

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Homework Statement


The radius of a circle is measured to be 2.4 cm +/- 0.1 cm.
Find the error in the area of the circle.
Find the error in the circumference.

Homework Equations


Have no idea but I'm taking a guess it could be multiplying fractional uncertainties?

The Attempt at a Solution


I got 18.09 for area and 15.08 for circumference...just need a way to go about calculating error

...really rusty in math and learning physics now, pardon the noob question.
 
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A discussion of error analysis can be found here:

http://teacher.pas.rochester.edu/PHY_LABS/AppendixB/AppendixB.html

Near the end of the document is a table showing how to deal with the uncertainty values when performing various mathematical operations.

Keep in mind that constants (like 2 or π) are exact and have zero uncertainty.
 
Thanks but I'm still a little confused...would I have to do the 0.1/2.4 twice and add them or what?
 
Wa1337 said:
Thanks but I'm still a little confused...would I have to do the 0.1/2.4 twice and add them or what?

For what calculation?

You might want to ponder entry 5 in the table, which deals with numbers with uncertainties raised to a power.
 
Well in that scenario delta Z would be the change in 2.4 + .1 and 2.4 -.1 right? What about delta A?
 
Wa1337 said:
Well in that scenario delta Z would be the change in 2.4 + .1 and 2.4 -.1 right? What about delta A?

Z is the result. ΔZ is the uncertainty in the result. A is the number with uncertainty ΔA. So in the case of calculating Z = A2, n = 2 and
[tex]\frac{\Delta Z}{Z} = n \frac{\Delta A}{A}[/tex]
giving
[tex]\Delta Z = 2 Z \frac{\Delta A}{A}[/tex]
and since Z = A2, this yields
[tex]\Delta Z = 2 A^2 \frac{\Delta A}{A}[/tex]
You could reach the same result using entry 3 in the table (for Z = A*B) by setting B = A and ΔB = ΔA.
 
Ok thanks for clarifying.
 

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