Calculating Escape Velocity on the Equator: Is It Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of escape velocity, specifically whether it is dependent on geographic coordinates, with a focus on calculations related to the equator. Participants explore the implications of conservation of energy in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate escape velocity using conservation of energy and questions the influence of geographic location on this value. Some participants inquire about the kinetic energy associated with Earth's rotation and its role in achieving escape velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations and assumptions. There is a mix of clarifications regarding the conditions for escape and the relevance of initial kinetic energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to compare different energy states, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the distance from the Earth's surface to its center varies with latitude, which may influence the escape velocity. The original poster expresses challenges with language and understanding, indicating a need for supportive dialogue.

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hello... I've got some small problem with Escape velocity. So... is it dependent on geographic coordinate ? I suppose "Yes!"... but is it true?

Using conservation of energy, I calculate this velocity on equator this way:

[tex]\frac{mv^2}{2}= \frac{GMm}{R} - \frac{m(2 \pi R)^2}{T^2*R }[/tex]
Am I right ?
 
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blost said:
hello... I've got some small problem with Escape velocity. So... is it dependent on geographic coordinate ? I suppose "Yes!"... but is it true?

Using conservation of energy, I calculate this velocity on equator this way:

[tex]\frac{mv^2}{2}= \frac{GMm}{R} - \frac{m(2 \pi R)^2}{T^2*R }[/tex]
Am I right ?
Are you trying to take into account the speed of the escaping object when it is sitting on the earth? Why?

To escape the earth, the object has to have enough kinetic energy so that its total energy (kinetic + potential) is greater than 0.

Condition for escape: KE + PE > 0.

AM
 
blost said:
hello... I've got some small problem with Escape velocity. So... is it dependent on geographic coordinate ? I suppose "Yes!"... but is it true?

Using conservation of energy, I calculate this velocity on equator this way:

[tex]\frac{mv^2}{2}= \frac{GMm}{R} - \frac{m(2 \pi R)^2}{T^2*R }[/tex]
Am I right ?

You've assumed that your escaping mass is locked in a circular orbit around the earth, that is completely incorrect.
I also don't think you're comparing any actual energies of the object. What two states are you comparing? Try and compare the state where it's released from the surface of the earth, and the one when it has escaped it (It is no longer influenced by Earth's gravitational field, what does that mean energy-wise?)

Read Andrew Mason's pointers, they should help you get started, and you should then see whether the solution depends on your initial position or not.
 
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I know that KE+Pe>0.
And I know that escaping mass isn't locked in a circular orbit around the earth, but it's still got a kinetic energy from Earth rotation, so i don't know, is Kinetic energy a sum of kinetic energy of Earth rotation and energy which must be inserted to this object?
 
blost said:
I know that KE+Pe>0.
And I know that escaping mass isn't locked in a circular orbit around the earth, but it's still got a kinetic energy from Earth rotation, so i don't know, is Kinetic energy a sum of kinetic energy of Earth rotation and energy which must be inserted to this object?
Yes, of course. But the question asks for the escape velocity, not the velocity or energy that you must add in order to achieve the escape velocity.

The reason the equator is important in this question is this: the distance from the Earth's surface to the centre varies with latitude. It is greatest at the equator.

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
Yes, of course. But the question asks for the escape velocity, not the velocity or energy that you must add in order to achieve the escape velocity.

thanks. Now i know...

by the way... sorry for my not-recherche language. English is not my native language (I'm 17 from Poland-3 h eng for a week ;/ 37 people in my class ;/ as like Cambodia... ), so please be tolerate :)
 

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