Calculating Expected Absolute Deviation for Independent Random Variables

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expected absolute deviation between two independent random variables, X and Y, which can take on values from 1 to m. The goal is to demonstrate a specific formula for the expected value of the absolute difference between these variables.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the total possible combinations of values for X and Y and express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculation. Some suggest starting with small values of m to explore the cases explicitly. Others mention using conditioning arguments to approach the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and approaches to tackle the problem. Some have offered suggestions for working through specific cases, while others have introduced concepts from relevant literature that may aid in understanding the problem better.

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There is mention of a lack of specific homework equations and the need to clarify assumptions regarding the independence and uniform distribution of the random variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Let X and Y be independent random variables, both being equally likely to be any of the numbers 1, 2, ..., m. Show that E[(absolute value(X-Y))] = ((m-l)(m+1)) / 3m.

Homework Equations



None, I guess

The Attempt at a Solution


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Okay so for sample space, since x and y can be any m; total possible combinations are m*m...and then, wasn't really sure where to go...tried talking through bunch of ideas with friends, but...to no avail.
 
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mattclgn said:

Homework Statement


Let X and Y be independent random variables, both being equally likely to be any of the numbers 1, 2, ..., m. Show that E[(absolute value(X-Y))] = ((m-l)(m+1)) / 3m.

Homework Equations



None, I guess

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Okay so for sample space, since x and y can be any m; total possible combinations are m*m...and then, wasn't really sure where to go...tried talking through bunch of ideas with friends, but...to no avail.

I'd suggest you start by working through the cases explicitly with small numbers. m=1 is no challenge. It's just 0 for the expectation value. m=2 is a little better, you've got the 2^2 cases 1,1 1,2 2,1 2,2. What's the expectation value? Does it match the formula? Now try m=3. Arrange the cases in a square matrix and see if you can think of something to do.
 
mattclgn said:

Homework Statement


Let X and Y be independent random variables, both being equally likely to be any of the numbers 1, 2, ..., m. Show that E[(absolute value(X-Y))] = ((m-l)(m+1)) / 3m.

Homework Equations



None, I guess

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
Okay so for sample space, since x and y can be any m; total possible combinations are m*m...and then, wasn't really sure where to go...tried talking through bunch of ideas with friends, but...to no avail.

Much of Ross' book emphasizes a "conditioning argument", and this is one case where you can profitably use that approach:
E |X-Y| = \sum_{j=1}^m E\left( |X-Y|\; | Y = j \right) P(Y = j) = \sum_{j=1}^m E |X-j| \, P(Y=j)
The somewhat unfortunate notation ##E(|X-Y| |Y=j)## means ##E(g(X,Y)|Y=j)##, where ##g(X,Y) = |X-Y|##.
 
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Okay, cool, I'll give it a shot.
 

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