Expected value of binomial distribution

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The problem involves a random variable Y that follows a binomial distribution with a fixed number of trials n and a success probability X, where X is a uniform random variable between 0 and 1. The main question is about finding the expected value E[Y].

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of X being a uniform random variable and how it affects the calculation of E[Y]. There is confusion about treating X as a constant versus a random variable. Some participants suggest that E[Y] can be derived from E[X], while others question the assumptions made regarding the distribution of X.

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There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between E[Y] and E[X]. Some participants have provided insights into the expected value of X and its implications for E[Y], while others express uncertainty about the conceptual understanding of the problem.

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Participants note that the problem involves understanding the expected value in the context of a random variable that influences the outcome of a binomial distribution, leading to discussions about the nature of probability and expectation in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A random variable Y has a binomial distribution with n trials and success probability X, where n is a given constant and X is a uniform(0,1) random variable. What is E[Y]?

Homework Equations


E[Y] = np

The Attempt at a Solution


The key is determining the probability of success, which is stated as X, thus the answer should be nX. But X is a uniform(0,1) random value, which is what I find confusing. My first thought was that X is constant = 1 (because uniform distribution) and therefore E[Y] = nX = n but I don't think that's right (it's like a double headed coin, n flips = n successes). I guess I don't understand how the fact that X is a uniform(0,1) RV enters into the problem. Any hints?
 
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I think this one is simple. If ## X ## is random and uniform between ##0 ## and ##1 ##, that would make ## EX=\frac{1}{2} ##. From there, ## EY ## follows immediately. Perhaps a more detailed calculation is necessary, but I'm thinking it isn't. ## \\ ## Edit: It might pay to consider ## EY ## for ## n=1 ##: ## EY_{n=1}= \int\limits_{0}^{1} p(x) x \, dx ##. And note: ## p(x)=1 ## for ## 0<x<1 ##, (with the uniform distribution), so that ## \int p(x) \, dx=1 ##.
 
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hotvette said:
it's like a double headed coin, n flips = n successes
Only if X = 1. But X can also be 0, leading to n flips = n misses ...

[edit] Oh boy, Charle is faster, giving it all away, and thhus robs you from the exercise...
 
Thanks for the replies! I'm not sure I follow, though. I completely understand that E[X ]= 1/2 by using the definition of expected value of a continuous RV. But what I don't understand is why E[Y] = nE[X] (and therefore n/2). Seems to me E[Y] = np = nX from the problem statement. There is something I'm missing conceptually I think.
 
hotvette said:
Thanks for the replies! I'm not sure I follow, though. I completely understand that E[X ]= 1/2 by using the definition of expected value of a continuous RV. But what I don't understand is why E[Y] = nE[X] (and therefore n/2). Seems to me E[Y] = np = nX from the problem statement. There is something I'm missing conceptually I think.
That is only the expectancy once you know what ## p ## is going to be given to you, basically by spinning a wheel before the experiment, and where the dial lands tells how much the coin will be biased in the ## n ## trials. ## \\ ## In any case, for the complete expectancy of ## Y ##, they are asking, what can you expect to get on the average?, given we are first going to spin the wheel, and then bias the coin accordingly. ## \\ ## I computed ## EY_{n=1} ## =for a single trial. If ## Y=X_1+X_2+...+X_n ##, then ## EY=n \, EX ##.
 
OK, I think I understand. Thanks!
 
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