Calculating Force and Efficiency of Fans Using Airflow Measurements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around calculating the force and efficiency of fans based on airflow measurements. Participants explore various methods and equations to derive force from airflow data, with a focus on experimental approaches and theoretical underpinnings.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests measuring airflow readings (m/s) to calculate force and power for comparing fan efficiencies, seeking equations for this purpose.
  • Another participant proposes suspending the fan as a pendulum to measure displacement and weight, referencing a practical physics lab approach.
  • A third participant cites a Wikipedia equation for thrust related to axial fans, providing a specific formula involving air density and velocities upstream and downstream of the fan.
  • Some participants question the concept of "force of an airflow," suggesting that thrust produced by the fan is the relevant quantity, reiterating the pendulum method.
  • Another contribution states that power or force can be equated to the change of momentum of the air, emphasizing the need for accurate measurements of velocity and energy consumption.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the concept of force related to airflow, with some supporting the idea of thrust while others challenge its validity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach and equations to use for calculating force and efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of the term "force of airflow," dependence on accurate measurements, and the need for clarity on the definitions of thrust and force in this context.

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Hi,

I am doing an experiment where I am measuring the airflow readings (m/s) of different fans. I then was hoping to use this to work out the force and then from that the power to compare the efficiencies of the different fans. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for what equations to use to find the force from the air flow as I haven't found any that are particularly helpful?

Thanks.
 
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Better. Suspend the fan as a simple pendulum and measure the displacement and weight just like in physics lab.
 
Trebor0808 said:
Hi,

I am doing an experiment where I am measuring the airflow readings (m/s) of different fans. I then was hoping to use this to work out the force and then from that the power to compare the efficiencies of the different fans. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for what equations to use to find the force from the air flow as I haven't found any that are particularly helpful?

Thanks.
Look at Pitot & Bernoulli
 
what do you mean by force of an airflow? it does not exist something like that.
If u mean the thrust produced by the fan i quote pendulum approach! :p
 
The power or force is equal to the change of momentum of the air. The efficiency is how much energy is being used to change the momentum.
Measure accurately velocity in and out and the energy consumption of the fan.
 

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