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The discussion focuses on the mathematical understanding of the Coanda Effect, particularly in relation to airflow around convex shapes. Key concepts include the Navier-Stokes equations and their derivation, which are essential for analyzing fluid dynamics. The participant emphasizes the need for a solid grasp of calculus (specifically Calculus 1, 2, and 3), classical physics principles, and numerical computation in MATLAB to effectively study the Coanda Effect. Resources provided include links to vector calculus explanations and numerical simulation tools for fluid dynamics.

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  • Calculus 1, 2, and 3, focusing on divergence, gradient, and curl
  • Classical physics concepts of momentum, energy, stress, and strain
  • Understanding of MATLAB for numerical computation
  • Familiarity with the Navier-Stokes equations
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  • Learn about the derivation and application of the Navier-Stokes equations
  • Study vector calculus concepts through resources like Khan Academy or MathIsPower4U
  • Explore MATLAB numerical simulation techniques for fluid dynamics
  • Investigate experimental methods to validate fluid dynamics simulations
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This discussion is beneficial for high school students, aspiring physicists, and engineers interested in fluid dynamics, particularly those looking to understand the Coanda Effect and its mathematical foundations.

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Mathematical understanding of the Coanda Effect
Summary: Mathematical understanding of the Coanda Effect

Summary: Mathematical understanding of the Coanda Effect

Hi,

I am trying to understand how to understand the Coanda Effect in terms of mathematics. I am a high school student and have a basic understanding of calculus, and I do not fully understand the Navier-Stokes equations. I have a project where I have to investigate the parameters that affect whether a candle will be blown out if there is a bottle in front of the incoming airflow.

What are the relevant relationships for airflow around a convex shape (Coanda Effect). E.g. how is air-speed dependent on the radius of the shape, and how would you go about finding the minimum velocity for the Coanda Effect to be observed or for air to reach the other side (mathematical derivations).

Am I able to just equate forces to derive equations for velocity/pressure functions, and if so how would I go about doing that? E.g. centrifugal force = (some kind of force related to radial pressure).

Also, are there are any good resources for understanding fluid dynamics. I would really like to get to the stage where I can derive the navier-stokes equations so that I can use them for my project in MATLAB. Any good resources to help me understand the maths? Thank you.
 
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This is a very tough topic to cover:
1) You need to understand Calculus 1,2,3 to the point of understanding divergence, gradient and curl and the related line, surface and volume integrals
2) You need to understand classical physics of momentum, energy, stress and strain
3) You need to understand how to put these together in a Matlab numerical computation

Here's a video that explains the terms of the Navier Stokes equations:



To understand divergence, gradient and curl conceptually:

https://betterexplained.com/articles/vector-calculus-understanding-circulation-and-curl/https://betterexplained.com/articles/vector-calculus-understanding-the-gradient/https://betterexplained.com/articles/divergence/
https://betterexplained.com/articles/flux/
For understanding the vector calculus math Khan Academy or MathIsPower4U is a good place to begin.

For understanding Navier Stokes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier–Stokes_equations
Numerical computing resources for Navier Stokes simulation:

https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcen...euler-and-navier-stokes-fluid-flow-simulation
https://math.mit.edu/~gs/cse/codes/mit18086_navierstokes.pdf
One of the hardest things will be proving your sim is correct which might mean physically testing it.

The sim problem boils down to either adding error or subtracting error as it runs and this manifests itself as energy coming in or energy being lost. THe easiest way o see that is a simple planetary simulation of the Earth going around the Sun as it runs the Earth will either spiral in from lost energy or spiral out energy gained from error in the simulation math (like rounding up or down too much)
 
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