Calculating Force on Charge q near Washer

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The problem involves calculating the force experienced by a charge q located on the z-axis at a distance D from the center of a washer with a constant surface charge density σ. The washer has an inner radius a and an outer radius b, and the challenge lies in determining the force due to the charge distribution on the washer.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the applicability of Gauss's law and the challenges posed by the geometry of the washer. There are considerations about drawing separation vectors and integrating over the washer's surface to find the electric field and force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the separation vector and the need to integrate over the washer's surface. However, there is still uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the selection of points on the washer and the implications for calculating distances.

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Participants express confusion about the geometry of the washer and the implications for calculating the force, indicating a need for clarification on how to handle the integration over the washer's surface.

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Homework Statement


There is a washer (inner radius is a and outer radius is b) on the x-y axis with a constant surface charge density σ . What is the force felt on charge q on z-axis distance D from center of washer.


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I don't even know where to begin...
I was thinking about drawing a triangle to a random spot on the washer from the origin to the charge q...but I don't know if that will work since it's a washer.
I don't think I can pick a gaussian surface...can I?
Please give some hints!
 
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Gauss's law is only useful under cylindrically symmetric cases when the cylinder extends to infinity, or it is very long and you are far from the ends; neither of these conditions are met by this problem, so that method is out.

Your idea of drawing a triangle to a random spot on the washer (x,y,0) is good. What is the separation vector [itex]\vec{r}[/itex] from the point (x,y,0) to the point (0,0,D)?How much charge [itex]dq[/itex] is contained in the infinitesimal area [itex]dxdy[/itex]? What does that make [itex]\vec{E}[/itex]? How about [itex]\vec{F}[/itex]?
 
Thank you very much for the help!

But I'm still a little puzzled about the problem...If I pick a random spot on the washer, then I won't know the exact distance from the origin, so I can't have a specific value for the separation vector. Right?

So, can I pick a spot on the outer radius b?
 
Well, give your random spot the coordinates (x,y,0), what is the separation vector in terms of x and y? Remember, you are going to end up integrating over all possible random spots, so you can't restrict yourself to only those spots that are along the outer radius.
 

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