Calculating Force Required to Overcome Friction

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The problem involves calculating the force required to overcome friction for a block being pulled horizontally. The block has a mass of 2.5 kg, with specified coefficients of static and kinetic friction.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate type of friction to use, debating between static and kinetic friction. There is uncertainty about when to apply each coefficient in the context of the block's movement.

Discussion Status

The discussion reflects differing interpretations of friction types, with some participants affirming the use of static friction until the block begins to move. Guidance has been provided regarding the correct application of friction coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the distinction between static and kinetic friction, with emphasis on the conditions under which each applies. There is a focus on ensuring the correct understanding of when to transition from static to kinetic friction.

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Homework Statement



A 2.5 kg block is pulled to the right by a horizontal string. The coefficient of static friction between block and floor is 0.30 and coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.20.

What value of force applied by the string will start the block moving?

Homework Equations



f=ma
Ff=(coefficient of friction)(Fn)

The Attempt at a Solution



i wasn't sure if i had to use coefficient of static or kinetic. I'm assuming kinetic since the block will be moving.
so i got:
Fn=(2.5)(9.8)
Ff=2.5*9.8*.3
=7.35
 
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You assumed the wrong type of friction but used the correct value of the coefficient. Up until the block actually moves, static friction applies.
 
PhanthomJay said:
You assumed the wrong type of friction but used the correct value of the coefficient. Up until the block actually moves, static friction applies.

so I'm right? because i did use the value for the static friction.
 
runningirl said:
so I'm right? because i did use the value for the static friction.
Yes, 7.35 N
 
Because your moving the block you need to use kinetic if the block were to be sitting alone you would use static frction.

in this problem, you were right you need to use the the coefficient of static friction until you actualy start moving the block, and then the static changes to kinetic, so you ar eright the answer is 7.35N
 

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