Calculating Forces in Gate Frame Members: Am I on the Right Track?

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The discussion focuses on calculating forces in gate frame members to determine the appropriate size of square tubing for a gate design. The user initially attempted the method of sections and joints but found them ineffective. The recommended approach involves creating free body diagrams (FBD) for each member to calculate maximum bending moments and assess buckling for compression tubes. A consensus suggests using 1/2" square mild steel tubing, with an upgrade to 1" tubing for higher loads, and incorporating axial loads with a Mohr's circle analysis for comprehensive results.

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  • Understanding of free body diagrams (FBD)
  • Knowledge of bending moment calculations
  • Familiarity with buckling theory for structural members
  • Basic principles of axial load analysis
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Hi all,

Trying to design a simple gate for the side of our house and in order to select the size of the square tube for the frame, I need to calculate the forces in the members of the frame.

I have tried the method of sections and joints, however both do not seem to work.

My next approach is to draw a fbd for each member then work out what the maximum bending moment is and then select a sqaure tube size based on that. If any tubes are in compression I will calculate buckling.

Just want to know if I am going down the correct path?
 

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I must say that I honestly wonder sometimes if people over-think things. Are you trying to bar access to your home from a Jehovah's Witness or a water buffalo? It makes a tad bit of difference as to what structural integrity is needed. (And the buffalo is easier to reason with.)
As a good compromise, I'd go with 1/2" square mild steel tubing welded together. If the buffalo is really angry, kick it up to 1" tubing.
 
Yes, a FBD would be the way to go. After that you should add any axial loads and combine the results from the bending & moment results with a Morh analysis.

I am curious where you got the downward force at point b on your diagram. And while you might think that the vertical loads at the hinges are shared it would be best to consider that the full load was only taken by a single hinge, probably the bottom one.
 

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