Calculating Friction Force in Sliding Block Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the friction force acting on a block sliding down a ramp. The block has a mass of 38.5g and is initially moving at 5.0m/s on a frictionless surface before descending a ramp inclined at 18.5 degrees. The goal is to determine the necessary friction force so that the block reaches a velocity of 5.5m/s at the bottom of the ramp.

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  • The original poster describes their approach involving potential energy and work done by friction, but expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the correctness of their answer. Other participants ask for clarification on the equations used and suggest considering the energy gained from potential energy versus kinetic energy.

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Participants are actively engaging in the problem, with some providing guidance on how to relate potential energy to kinetic energy and the work done by friction. There is a focus on understanding the energy transformations involved, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the calculations presented.

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A 38.5g block is sliding at 5.0m/s on the upper surface which is frictionless and 1.00m above the lower frictionless surface. The block slides down a ramp that is at an angle of 18.5 degrees. What must the friction force on the ramp be in order for the block to have a velocity of 5.5m/s at the bottom of the ramp?? I got the equation and an answer, but I am not sure if its right. how can i finish?
 
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aburich_44 said:
A 38.5g block is sliding at 5.0m/s on the upper surface which is frictionless and 1.00m above the lower frictionless surface. The block slides down a ramp that is at an angle of 18.5 degrees. What must the friction force on the ramp be in order for the block to have a velocity of 5.5m/s at the bottom of the ramp?? I got the equation and an answer, but I am not sure if its right. how can i finish?

Welcome to PF.

What is your equation and where are you stuck?
 
i got PEg (gravitational) - w (since the direction of friction force is against the displacement) = kef . And then i have w= fd; so f= (kf-peg) over -d. so that's equal to (1/2mv(final) ^2 - mgh) all over -d. Now I am stuck ?
 
OK.

How much energy will it gain from Potential Energy? m*g*h now I'm sure you can figure the h.
So how much of that made it to Kinetic energy if the velocity went from 5 to 5.5m/s?

So isn't it that whatever that difference is between energy added from Potential and what actually became Kinetic must have gone into Work from friction?

And over that distance that would be how much Force ...?

And this Force is given by ...?

Which means that μ will need to be ...?
 
hmm let's see: i did (1/2(0.0385)(5.5)^2 - 0.0385(9.81)(1) ) all over -3.15 (because h =1 and the distance is 1/sin18.5. So my answer is -0.65 ?? is that right?
 

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