Calculating Frictional Force on a Rolling Sphere: Incline Physics Problem

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The problem involves a solid sphere rolling down an inclined plane, focusing on calculating the frictional force acting on the sphere. The scenario includes parameters such as the angle of the incline, mass, radius, and coefficient of static friction.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and the relationship between linear and angular motion. There are attempts to derive equations involving torque, inertia, and acceleration. Questions arise regarding the calculation of torque and the use of the parallel axis theorem for moment of inertia.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and exploring different aspects of the physics involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the equations needed to relate linear and angular quantities, as well as the importance of drawing free-body diagrams.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring all forces are considered in the analysis, and participants are encouraged to clarify their assumptions and the setup of the problem. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to understand the dynamics of the rolling sphere without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



A solid sphere of uniform density starts from rest and rolls without slipping down an inclined plane with angle θ = 24°. The sphere has mass M = 8.0 kg and radius R = 0.19 m. The coefficient of static friction between the sphere and the plane is μ = 0.64. What is the magnitude of the frictional force on the sphere?


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So far I can think of these:

torque = inertia * angular acceleration

Force (in direction of ball rolling down) - Friction Force = mass * acceleration, though in this case it's
Force - Friction Force = mass * gravity * sin(angle)

The Attempt at a Solution



Force = 8 * 9.8 * sin(24) = 31.88
inertia = (2/5) * mass * radius^2 = (2/5) * 8 * 0.19^2 = 0.11552
 
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Force (in direction of ball rolling down) - Friction Force = mass * acceleration, though in this case it's
Force - Friction Force = mass * gravity * sin(angle)

No, the force is just gravity, mg*sin(a). Newton's second law would then be mg*sin(a)-f=ma, where f is friction.

That's the first equation. The second equation you need should be the rotational Newton's second law, expressing angular acceleration in terms of the mass, friction force, and moment of inertia (which you calculated correctly). Consider the contact point between the sphere and the ramp as your reference point for calculating torque.

The final equation you need should relate angular acceleration to linear acceleration. This isn't too hard: it's just alpha=a/R, where R is the radius of the sphere.
 
How should i go about calculating torque? I know it's inertia * alpha, but since I don't yet have a linear acceleration I can't use alpha = a/R. I know torque also equals radius * force, so for that force would I plug in m*g*sin(angle)?
 
Draw a free-body diagram on the sphere and label ALL forces, not just gravity. You can calculate the torque contribution from each force by multiplying the force by the length of the moment arm. (This length is the perpendicular "distance" between the force vector and the reference point.)

One more thing: the moment of inertia you calculated is about the sphere's center of mass. Try using the parallel axis theorem to calculate the moment of inertia about the contact point.
 
torque = r * f = r * m*g*sin(angle) = 0.19 * 8 * 9.8 * sin(24) = 6.05

inertia about contact point = inertia center of mass + mass * distance^2 = 0.11552 + 8 * 0.19^2 = 0.40432
 
DragonZero said:
torque = r * f = r * m*g*sin(angle) = 0.19 * 8 * 9.8 * sin(24) = 6.05

Yes, because the torque contribution from friction and the normal force are both zero.

inertia about contact point = inertia center of mass + mass * distance^2 = 0.11552 + 8 * 0.19^2 = 0.40432

Yes. Now, torque=I*alpha and alpha=a/r, so you can solve the system of equations.
 
Thank you.
 

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