Calculating Fridge Suction Force: Ideal Gas and Hermetic Door

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force required to reopen a fridge door, considering the ideal gas behavior of air inside the fridge and the effects of temperature changes on pressure. The fridge has a specified volume and dimensions for the door, and the problem involves understanding the pressure dynamics when the door is opened and closed.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the ideal gas law to determine the number of moles of air and the resulting pressures inside and outside the fridge. There are questions about the accuracy of calculations and the impact of approximations on the final result.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the use of pressure in calculations. There is acknowledgment of potential numerical errors and the need for careful consideration of approximations. The discussion reflects an ongoing exploration of the problem without a definitive consensus on the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the fridge door operates on a hinge, which may affect the force calculations. There is also mention of discrepancies between calculated results and provided solutions, prompting further investigation into the methods used.

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Homework Statement


Consider a fridge with a volume of 120L whose door has 0.8m of height and 0.5m of length. When the door is open there isn't a relevant change in the air quantity inside the fridge. However the temperature increases slightly.
Suppose that when the door is opened, the air inside the fridge reaches an uniform temperature of -8 ºC, and is in equilibrium with the outside atmosferic pressure. When the door is closed, the air inside the fridge cools down until it reaches a temperature of -10 ºC. The air inside the fridge is considered an ideal gas and the door of the fridge is completely hermetic.

Homework Equations



Calculate the force needed to reopen the door.

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to approach this problem :confused:
 
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hi cathode-ray! :smile:

hint: pressure :wink:
 
Hi tiny-tim!

I tried to think using your hint. However the result i get is still different from the one given in the solution, despite they are very close. I thought this way:

When the door is open the pressure applied to the air inside the fridge is the atmospheric pressure P=1.013E5 Pa. The volume is 120E-3 m^3, and the temperature is -8+273.15=265.15 K. Using the ideal gas law i get the number of moles of the air inside the fridge.

When the door is closed there are two forces with opposite directions applied to it: the pressure of the air inside the fridge and the atmospheric pressure. So the force needed to open the door is the difference between these two pressures times the area of the door. I again used the ideal gas law to calculate the pressure caused by the inner air, using the number of moles i got (n=5.514) and the temperature of -10+273.15=263.15K.

The finally result was F=320 N, but the solution is 306 N.

What am I doing wrong?
 
cathode-ray said:
When the door is closed there are two forces with opposite directions applied to it: the pressure of the air inside the fridge and the atmospheric pressure. So the force needed to open the door is the difference between these two pressures times the area of the door.

Your method looks correct :smile: (except you haven't taken account of the fact that the fridge door opens on a hinge) …

there must be a numerical error somewhere
 
Sorry for the time I took to answer.

I found out why it is different from the result of the solutions. The problem are the approximations. I tried different approximations and i got the result of the solutions.

Thanks for your help :smile:
 

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