Calculating $\Gamma^2_{chir}$ in General Dimensions

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The discussion centers on the calculation of the quantity $\Gamma^{2}_{chir}$ in the context of general dimensions, focusing on the notation and implications of squaring the chirality operator $\Gamma_{chir}$. Participants explore the definitions and properties of gamma matrices in various dimensions, particularly in odd dimensions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether $\Gamma^{2}_{chir}$ should be calculated as $\Gamma_{chir} \Gamma_{chir}$ or $\Gamma_{chir} \Gamma_{chir}^{\dagger}$.
  • Another participant states that $\gamma_{5}$ is an Hermitian matrix, suggesting that both options are equivalent.
  • A subsequent participant challenges the generality of this equivalence, specifically in odd dimensions, such as D=5.
  • Another participant notes that in odd dimensions, $\gamma_{(5)}$ does not exist as a separate entity, providing examples from D=3 and D=5 to illustrate the properties of gamma matrices.
  • One participant presents a definition of $\Gamma$ in general D dimensions and discusses its commutation properties with gamma matrices, indicating that $\Gamma$ anticommutes in even dimensions and commutes in odd dimensions.
  • The same participant explores the implications of squaring $\Gamma$, deriving conditions under which $\Gamma^{2} = 1$ and discussing the potential forms of $\Gamma^{2}$.
  • Further calculations are presented, leading to different expressions for $\Gamma \Gamma$ and $\Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}$, with conditions for each to yield the identity matrix.
  • Examples are provided for various dimensions to illustrate the derived results, particularly focusing on the signs and conditions needed for the expressions to hold true.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the equivalence of the two forms of $\Gamma^{2}_{chir}$, with some asserting they are the same while others question this in the context of odd dimensions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these calculations in general dimensions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the properties of gamma matrices in different dimensions, particularly concerning the existence of $\gamma_{(5)}$ in odd dimensions and the implications of Hermiticity. The discussion also highlights unresolved mathematical steps in deriving conditions for $\Gamma^{2}$.

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I am sorry, this is a rather dump question- more like a notation question since the sources I've looked into don't specify it... But in case I want to calculate (in general dimensions) the:
\Gamma^{2}_{chir} =1
Do I have to take:
\Gamma_{chir} \Gamma_{chir}

or
\Gamma_{chir} \Gamma_{chir}^{\dagger}
?
 
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\gamma_{5} is an hermitain matrix.

so \gamma_{5}=\gamma_{5}^{\dagger}

so both options are the same
 
is that true in general dimensions? For example D= 5 dims?
 
ChrisVer said:
is that true in general dimensions? For example D= 5 dims?

There is no \gamma_{ ( 5 ) }" in odd dimensional spacetime. In fact, in odd dimensions, It is one of the fundamental Gammas. For examples: D=3,
\gamma_{ ( 5 ) } \equiv \sigma_{ 3 } = - i \sigma_{ 1 } \sigma_{ 2 } , \ \ -i \sigma_{ 1 } \sigma_{ 2 } \sigma_{ 3 } = I

And in D = 5, \gamma_{ ( 5 ) } \equiv \gamma^{ 4 }
 
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In general D dimensions you can always define a gamma 5:

\Gamma = i^{a} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1}

So far I've proven that \Gamma anticommutes with \gamma^{M} if D=even and commutes if D=odd... In the case of D=odd, because it commutes with all the gamma matrices (I think because of Schur's Lemma) you have \Gamma \propto 1
And I'm trying to find the constraint on a so that I can fulfill the requirement that \Gamma^{2}=1
However I am not sure if by the square they mean \Gamma \Gamma or \Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}...

In \Gamma \Gamma case I have:
\Gamma \Gamma= (i)^{2a} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1}
By doing the commutations properly I get:*
\Gamma \Gamma= (i)^{2a} (-1)^{\frac{D+1}{2}} 1 = (-1)^{a+\frac{D+1}{2}}

So if I want to get the identity matrix, I must ask for the exponent to be even.
a+\frac{D+1}{2}= 2n
a= \frac{4n-D-1}{2}
In the simplest case n=0 so that (-1)^0=+1 and we have:
a= - \frac{D+1}{2}
However if \Gamma^{2}= \Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}
and by supposing that:
\gamma_{0}^{\dagger}= \gamma_{0}
\gamma_{i}^{\dagger}= \gamma_{0} \gamma_{i} \gamma_{0}

I have:

\Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}= (i)^{2a} (-1)^{a} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1}\gamma_{D-1}^{\dagger} ... \gamma_{1}^{\dagger} \gamma_{0}^{\dagger}

now inserting the above assumption:

\Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}= (i)^{2a} (-1)^{a} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{D-1} \gamma_{0} ... \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{0}

Now inside D points, you have D-1 regions (in this case it means D-1 \gamma_{0}^{2})**. Since D is odd, D-1 is even and thus the result is just a +.

\Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}= (-1)^{2a} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{1} ... \gamma_{D-1} \gamma_{0} \gamma_{D-1}... \gamma_{1}

Since all the gammas commute with \Gamma I can move the middle \gamma_{0} to the 1st place, without a problem, where I'll get \gamma_{0}^{2}=-1 and the rest gammas will start cancelling each other one after the other without changing anything (+)(+)(+) etc...

\Gamma \Gamma^{\dagger}= (-1)^{2a+1}

again asking for the power to be even:
2a+1 =2n
a= \frac{2n-1}{2}
Again in the simplest case a= \pm \frac{1}{2} ( \pm because I don't know if it's needed to be positive or negative, for - n=0, for + n=1)

*eg
D=1, ~~00 =-1
D=3, ~~ 012 012= +1
D=5, ~~ 0123401234= -1
etc
So for general D I have (-1)^{\frac{D+1}{2}}
**eg
D=3, ~~ 012 2'1'0' = 012 0 200100= 012021 * (-1)^{2}
D=5, ~~ 01234 4'3'2'1'0'=012340400300200100= 0123404321 * (-1)^{4}
D=7, ~~ 0123456 6'5'4'3'2'1'0'= 01234560600500400300200100 = 01234560654321 * (-1)^{6}
 
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