Calculating Ground State Energy for Triple Ionized Beryllium

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The discussion revolves around calculating the ground state energy of an electron in triple ionized beryllium, which has an atomic number of Z = 4. The problem is situated within the context of atomic physics and quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on energy levels in hydrogen-like atoms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of the energy formula for hydrogen-like atoms, questioning the correct values for Z and n. The original poster attempts to apply the formula but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach and seeks hints or resources for further understanding.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants clarifying the implications of triple ionization and the significance of the ground state. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct values for Z and n, and one participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received, indicating a productive exchange.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster lacking access to their textbook, which may limit their ability to verify the equations and concepts discussed. Additionally, the limitations of the Bohr model in high Z scenarios are noted, suggesting a need for careful consideration of electron interactions.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the energy of the electron in the ground state of triple ionized beryllium, which has an atomic number Z = 4.


Homework Equations



-Z2 (13.6)
N2

The Attempt at a Solution




Z=4 as given and it is tripled so our N=3. We throw our numbers in there and we should have -(16)(13.6). Take that product and divide it by 9. I got an answer of -24.18, but I am incorrect.

Unfortunately, I do not have my textbook with me right now so I might have the equation all wrong. I would really appreciate it if someone could give me a hint or a good website to learn from.

THANK YOU!
 
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[tex]\frac{m_e Z^2 e^4}{(4 \pi \epsilon_0)^2 2 \hbar^2}\frac{1}{n^2}[/tex]
 
Z=4 is correct, however the electron is in the ground state, so n=1.
The triple ionized means that the normally neutrally charged beryllium atom now has a +3e charge, so the situation is idealized to a +4e core (Z=4) with just one -1e electron in it's orbit, obviously being in the ground state (n=1).
This is because the equation you gave doesn't hold for high Z, high N and disregards electron-electron interaction, since the Bohr model (the equation is an extrapolated result of the Bohr model of the hydrogen atom) doesn't properly account for these kind of interactions.
I'm not completing the calculation because I don't feel like it, but I'm fairly positive that you'll arrive at the correct answer.
 
Sjorris, I would just like to THANK YOU! I succesfully solved my problem because of your help.

I really appreciate your help.

THANKS! again

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