Calculating Half-Life Using Calculus: Deriving λ from y = y0e-kt

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The discussion revolves around deriving the half-life (λ) from the exponential decay equation y = y0e^(-kt). The original poster seeks clarification on how to connect their expression for λ with the concept of half-life in the context of radioactive decay.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the decay equation and half-life, questioning how to manipulate the equation to express λ. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of λ and its role in the equation, with some participants exploring the implications of the exponential decay identity.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen various attempts to derive the relationship between the decay equation and half-life, with some participants expressing confusion about the treatment of λ as a variable or constant. There is a recognition of the connection between the decay factor and the concept of halving the original amount, leading to some productive insights.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the exponential decay formula and the concept of half-life, with some expressing uncertainty about specific steps in the derivation process. The discussion reflects a learning environment where assumptions and definitions are being questioned.

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Homework Statement


This is the equation
y = y0e-kt


Homework Equations



b) Show using your expression for λ that if at time t1 the amount is y1, then at time t1 + λ it will be y1/2, no matter what t1 is.

The Attempt at a Solution



y1=y0ekt1

that part I got. Then the answer key goes into the next step saying:λ = (−ln2/k)y0ek(t1+λ)

That is where I got lost. What is the step to go from the y1 equation into the lambda equation? I know that for half life, y1=y0/2 so that makes t=ln2/k . The time it takes for an element to decompose to half its mass is t=ln2/k . How do I make the connection to the very last lambda equation?
 
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The statement "at time t1 the amount is t1" is the same as y1=y0e-kt1. At any time, the amount is y=y0e-kt.
At time t=t1+λ, the amount is y=y0e-k(t1+λ)=y0e-kt1-kλ. You know the identity ax+y=ax ay, don't you? And λ is the half-life, so y0e-kλ=y0/2.
Can you proceed from here?


ehild
 
using your method and identity, I got: y=y0e-kt1*e-k\lambda
so
y=y1*e-k\lambda

and then I am stuck again. lambda = half life, but what does that mean for me to get to y0e-kλ=y0/2.
 
y0e-kλ=y0/2, that is e-kλ=1/2.

ehild
 
I still do not see it. is lambda in this equation being treated as a variable or constant? is lambda the same as time?
 
λ is the time it takes for a sample of an element to decompose so that the mass of the original element in the resulting sample is half of the original mass. Thus, λ, must be the half-life.
 
Ok I think I got it. This is my understanding, tell me if I am correct.

e-k\lambda is the multiplier it takes to make an element exactly 1/2 of itself therefore we can set e-k\lambda=1/2
So when I come to y=y0e-kt1*e-kλ That is the same thing as y=y0e-kt1*(1/2) and knowing that y0e-kt1=y1 we can say y=y1*(1/2)

am I right?
 
ttttrigg3r said:
That is the same thing as y=y0e-kt1*(1/2) and knowing that y0e-kt1=y1 we can say y=y1*(1/2)

am I right?

Yes, You are right, well done!

ehild
 
THank you all those who helped.
 

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