Calculating Heat Flow Ratio of Two Water Tanks

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The problem involves calculating the heat flow ratio between two water tanks with different temperatures. Tank 1 is at 0 degrees Celsius and Tank 2 is at 10 degrees Celsius, with a subsequent temperature change for Tank 2 to 100 degrees Celsius. The original poster attempts to determine the ratio of heat flows, Q2/Q1, and is struggling with the correct application of temperature units in the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate units for temperature in the heat flow formula, questioning whether Celsius is acceptable or if Kelvin should be used instead. The original poster attempts calculations using both Celsius and Kelvin, leading to confusion about the results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding unit conversion, and the original poster acknowledges a mistake in their calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method yet.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate formula to use for calculating heat flow and whether temperature should be expressed in Celsius or Kelvin. The original poster's calculations have led to differing results, indicating potential misunderstandings of the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement


There are two tanks with water, there are standing very close to each other. Tank 1 is having a temperature of 0 degrees and tank 2 is having a temperature of 10 degrees. The heatflow between the two is Q1. Then tank two is getting a temperature of 100 degrees. That heatflow we will call Q2. The question is: By what degree will the ratio Q2/Q1 chance?


Homework Equations



I don't know really...

The Attempt at a Solution



So I used Q=cA(T14-T24). c and A are some constants that are the same for both tanks so cA=C. Then I put the temperatures in the formula making it:
Q1=C*104 and Q2=C*1004 Then deviding them to get: 1004/104=1*104 (the constant C disappears). So my answer would be 1*104 And the answer is supposted to be 16, which sounds much more normal to me. But I have no idea how to get here...

 
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What unit should you be using for T?
 
celsius, sorry forgot to say
 
5carola5 said:
celsius, sorry forgot to say

Is it ok to use Celsius unit in the formula, or does the formula require that you use another unit?
 
I don't really know extally, can try to do it in Kelvin as the last time I did it in celsius... let's see.

then it becomes: (373^4) / (283^4) = 3,018. That's also not alright, so it must be something else. Might be a total differend formula, I really don't know...
 
Did you also convert the 0 oC to Kelvin?
 
aaaah I forgot ^^'
((373^4) - (273^4)) / ((273^4) - (283^4)) = -16,1... Oke thanks a lot ^^" That was pretty stupit of me... But I will not do that wrong again for quite some time :P

thanks again:)
 
We've all learned that lesson the hard way. :biggrin:
 

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