Calculating Heat of Fusion for Ice Cube: Lab Experiment Results

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat of fusion for an ice cube based on a lab experiment involving melting ice in water. Participants explore the methodology for determining the heat of fusion, including the energy exchanges during the melting process and the experimental setup.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the equation Q = m * hf to find the heat of fusion, suggesting that Q can be derived from the energy released as the temperature of the ice cube increases.
  • Several participants request a detailed step-by-step description of the experimental process to better understand the heat transfer involved.
  • Another participant suggests applying the law of conservation of energy to analyze the thermal events in the experiment, referencing 'method of mixtures' problems commonly found in thermodynamics studies.
  • There is a mention of the need to account for the heat capacity of the styrofoam cup, with questions raised about how to measure any temperature change in the cup during the experiment.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the significance of the temperature change in the styrofoam cup compared to the water, indicating a need for clarification on its impact on the overall heat transfer calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the methodology for calculating the heat of fusion, with multiple competing views on how to approach the problem and differing opinions on the relevance of the styrofoam cup's heat capacity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of accurately describing the experimental setup and the heat transfer processes involved, highlighting potential limitations in the data provided and the assumptions made during calculations.

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So i did a lab were we melt an ice cube in water. So i have to find the heat of fusion for the ice cube. But i am not sure how to do that.

What i was thinking of doing is finding the energy released by temperature of the ice cube increasing, then make that value of q, equal to m*hf, when it is melting. So:

Q = m * hf

Q/ m = hf

would this be correct? if you want my data it is:

mass of ice cube = 22.82 g

temperature = -7 degrees celsius

and for specific heat capacity i used 2.10 joules/ gram * degrees celsius

i know the theoretical value is 333, but my teacher is saying that our value of hf needs to be different.
 
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Please describe the experiment, so far there is not enough information to help you (I guess I know what you did, and if so what you suggested is wrong, but I prefer to be sure).

Can you describe - step by step - changes that occurred to the ice cube during the experiment? Where did the heat needed for these changes came from?
 
Borek said:
Please describe the experiment, so far there is not enough information to help you (I guess I know what you did, and if so what you suggested is wrong, but I prefer to be sure).

Can you describe - step by step - changes that occurred to the ice cube during the experiment? Where did the heat needed for these changes came from?
so this is how the experiment went:

we took a styrofoam cup , weighed it, added water into the cup and weighed it again. We then recorded the temperature of the war which was 23 degrees celsius. We then put an ice cube into the styrofoam cup with the water and waited for it to melt, we then recorded the temperature of the water and melted ice cube and got 9 degrees celsius, we weighed the mass again. After our teacher told us that the temperature of the ice cube was 7 degrees celsius. Mass of Styrofoam cup = 3.56 g

Mass of Styrofoam cup + water = 145.78 g

Mass of Styrofoam cup + water + melted ice cube = 168.6 g

T1 = 23°c

T2 = 9° c

Tice = -7°c
 
I hate to ask the same question again and again, but sometimes I have no choice.

Borek said:
Can you describe - step by step - changes that occurred to the ice cube during the experiment? Where did the heat needed for these changes came from?
 
Start with listing the events having heat transfer history and apply the law of conservation of energy to the sum of the thermal events. I suggest looking up and reviewing solving 'method of mixtures' type problems in closed systems. These studies are also called 'Coffee Cup Calorimeter type experiments. Thermodynamics sections of most college chemistry or physics texts have some great examples.
 
Don't forget to determine the heat capacity of the styrofoam cups.
 
Interesting proposition... but how do you measure the temperature change of the styrofoam cup? I would think it would be negligible compared to ΔT for water, but I'm always open to technique.
 
James Pelezo said:
Interesting proposition... but how do you measure the temperature change of the styrofoam cup? I would think it would be negligible compared to ΔT for water, but I'm always open to technique.
I think what you mean is that the heat transferred to or from the styrofoam cup is negligible compared to the other heat effects in this system.
 
Yes, Chet ... much better said. Thanks.
 

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