Calculating Integral of e^x/x - Find My Mistake

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the integral of e^x/x, specifically addressing a participant's attempt to solve it and the mistakes they believe they made. The conversation includes technical reasoning, challenges to proposed methods, and various interpretations of the integral's solution.

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  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant acknowledges that the answer is the exponential integral Ei(x) but believes their calculation is incorrect and seeks feedback on their method.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of opening document files, with some participants expressing reluctance to do so due to potential viruses.
  • Another participant points out a potential mistake in the original calculation, suggesting that a factor of 1/x was missed in a specific step.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of the equation e^lnx = x, with participants noting that it holds true only for x > 0.
  • One participant mentions that they have tried various methods to solve the integral but keep returning to the starting point, indicating frustration.
  • Another participant references a Wikipedia page for the exponential integral, but questions whether it provides clarity on the specific error in the original calculation.
  • There is a discussion about the application of the chain rule in the context of the integral, with some participants debating the correct interpretation of variables and derivatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the calculations and interpretations of the integral. There is no consensus on the specific mistakes made, and multiple competing explanations are presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in the original calculation, such as missing factors and misunderstandings of mathematical rules, but these points remain unresolved within the discussion.

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First of all, I want to clarify that i know the answer is Ei(x). I have found a way to calculate this integral but the result is definitely wrong Anyway, have a look and tell me where is my mistake
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd4jpgg_1g8ztn3g5
 
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Many people (and I am one when I am not using my home computer where I know how strong my virus- protection is) will not open "word" files. They are notorious for harboring viruses.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Many people (and I am one when I am not using my home computer where I know how strong my virus- protection is) will not open "word" files. They are notorious for harboring viruses.

Really ? Didn't know that... Well, i can garentee it contains only calculus. Apart from that why why would someone upload a doc file with viruses to physics forums?? I hope i learn "latex" soon so i won't need these word documents
 
3.1415926535 said:
Really ? Didn't know that... Well, i can garentee it contains only calculus. Apart from that why why would someone upload a doc file with viruses to physics forums??
For at least two reasons: they knew that the file contained a virus and wanted to spread it; they didn't know the file contained a virus. For a person intent on spreading a computer virus, there is nothing sacrosanct about physicsforums.
 
How about googledocs?
 
It seems that you have missed 1/x in step 2. The final answer you got is just e^x +
c. How it can be? Can you check step no. 2?

Regarding MS word one can disable macros and defend from viruses. For me it worked!
 
Here is the google docs equation
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd4jpgg_1g8ztn3g5
 
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n.karthick said:
It seems that you have missed 1/x in step 2. The final answer you got is just e^x +
c. How it can be? Can you check step no. 2?

Regarding MS word one can disable macros and defend from viruses. For me it worked!

I know it can't be e^x+c ... I didn't miss it! Check the google document du=1/x dx
 
e^lnx = x is true only if x>0 right? I tried conventional method to solve this integral and i got different answer. I have to check my answer.
 
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It's the 5th line. [tex]u[/tex] is independent variable here, so [tex]u'=1[/tex].
 
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n.karthick said:
e^lnx = x is true only if x>0 right? I tried conventional method to solve this integral and i got different answer. I have to check my answer.

Of course. There can't be a ln(-|x|)
 
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losiu99 said:
It's the 5th line. [tex]u[/tex] is independent variable here, so [tex]u'=1[/tex].

Really? I thought that since u=g(x) u'=g'(x)=lnx'=1/x
 
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n.karthick said:
Whatever way I try it is bouncing back to beginning.
Finally wikipedia page gave me the answer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_integral
Gave you WHAT answer? That article doesn't explain where the error is...

losiu99 said:
It's the 5th line. [tex]u[/tex] is independent variable here, so [tex]u'=1[/tex].
Yes, you are having problems with the chain rule. If v = e^u, then dv/du = e^u, and dv = (e^u)du, which doesn't help solve the integral.
If you wanted to take dv/dx, then that would equal (dv/du)*(du/dx), but that's not what you're doing... (and won't help any)
 
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Try this one:
[tex]e^x\sum_{i=1}^\infty(i-1)!x^{-i}[/tex]
 
  • #16
[tex]e^{elnx} = e^x[/tex] ?
 

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