Calculating Integrals with Tricky Substitutions

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hi,
I'm working on thiis:
[tex].25 = \int_{-\infty}^m\frac{e^{x}}{(1+e^{-x})^2}dx[/tex]
I let [tex]u=1+e^{-x} , du=-e{-x}dx[/tex]
which gives:
[tex]\frac{1}{u}=\frac{1}{1+e^{-x}}|_{-\infty}^m[/tex]
then I solve it out and I get
[tex]\frac{1}{1+e^{-m}}-1=.25[/tex]
I have tried to solve this and I keep getting a negative ln. I moved the 1 to the RHS and then took ln of both sides. I can't get it to work.
help
CC
 
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But you don't have an e-x in the numerator. Try multiplying the top and bottom by e2x, then using the substitution u=1+ex, which will leave you with something like (u-1) to some power divided by u2.

By the way, there is no solution to the equation you mention at the end since 1/(1+ex)<1 for any real x.
 
ok
Statusx, you are absolutely correct. I have forgotten my - sign. It should read

[tex].25 = \int_{-\infty}^m\frac{e^{-x}}{(1+e^{-x})^2}dx[/tex]
sorry...
then let

[tex]u=1+e^{-x} , du=-e^{-x}dx[/tex]
which gives
[tex]\frac{1}{1+e^{-m}}-1=.25[/tex]
so then you get
[tex]\frac{1}{1+e^{-m}}=1.25[/tex]
from there I took to ln of both sides and tried to solve for m, but nothing is working out.
CC
 
then,
[tex]1=1.25+1.25e^{-m}[/tex]
then
[tex]-.2=e^{-m}[/tex]
ln makes no sense
CC
 
It makes no sense because you've been sloppy!
We have:
[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{m}\frac{e^{-x}dx}{(1+e^{-x})^{2}}=\frac{1}{1+e^{-x}}\mid_{-\infty}^{m}=\frac{1}{1+e^{-m}}-\frac{1}{1+e^{\infty}}=\frac{1}{1+e^{-m}}[/tex]
 
der duh der duh
[tex]\frac{1}{e^{-{-\infty}}}=0[/tex]
I am a sloppy, sloppy student.:redface:
I'm all good now.
Thanks