Calculating Ion-Ion and Ion-Dipole Interaction Energies in Aqueous Solutions

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on calculating the interaction energies between H3O+ and H2O, as well as between H3O+ and H3O+, at a separation distance of 0.3 nm. The ion-dipole interaction is calculated using the formula V=−qμ/(4πϵ0)r², resulting in a value of approximately 0.619. The ion-ion interaction is computed with U(r)= (q1q2)/(4*π*E0)*(1/r), yielding a value of 2.70 x 10^18, which raises concerns regarding unit consistency. The calculations suggest that the ideal behavior of H3O+ at high molality may not be achievable due to the significant interaction energies.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of ion-dipole and ion-ion interactions
  • Familiarity with the concepts of relative permittivity and vacuum permittivity
  • Proficiency in using the equations V=−qμ/(4πϵ0)r² and U(r)= (q1q2)/(4*π*E0)*(1/r)
  • Basic knowledge of molecular dipole moments
NEXT STEPS
  • Review the principles of ion-dipole interactions in aqueous solutions
  • Study the effects of relative permittivity on interaction energies
  • Learn about the significance of unit consistency in physical chemistry calculations
  • Explore the implications of high molality on the behavior of ions in solution
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Chemistry students, physical chemists, and researchers focusing on molecular interactions in aqueous solutions will benefit from this discussion.

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Homework Statement


Neglecting hydrogen-bonding, calculate the interaction energy between
(i) H3O+ and H2O and
(ii) H3O+ and H3O+,
if each pair is separated by 0.3 nm and assuming that the aqueous solvent can be treated as a medium with constant relative permittivity. Using your result, comment on the likelihood of ideal behaviour by H3O+ at high molality

Homework Equations


Ion-dipole interaction
V=−qμ/(4πϵ0)r2
r is the distance of separation.
q is the charge of the ion ( only the magnitude of the charge is shown here.)
μ is the permanent dipole moment of the polar molecule.

Ion-ion interaction
U(r)= (q1q2)/(4*π*E0)*(1/r)

The Attempt at a Solution


V=−qμ/(4πϵ0)r2
r is the distance of separation so 0.3nm
q is the charge of the ion so 1 here
μ is the permanent dipole moment of the polar molecule 6.2 x 10-30 C m
So if I can treat it as having constant relative permittivity then I just need the permittivity of a vacuum.
so
(-1 x 6.2 x 10-30)/(4π8.85 x 10-12x(0.3x10-9)2
And I got 0.619 from this which doesn't sound right?

U(r)= (q1q2)/(4*π*E0)*(1/r)
(1x1)/(4π8.85 x 10-12x(0.3x10-9) x (1/0.3x10-9)
=2.70 x 1018 which sounds ridiculous
 
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You definitely need to put units in there.
 

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