Electrostatic Force of water molecule

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The problem involves calculating the electrostatic force exerted by a water molecule on a chlorine ion, utilizing the dipole moment of the water molecule and the electric field it generates. The context is within electrostatics, specifically focusing on dipole interactions.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the force using two different equations related to electric fields and forces, questioning the need for the second charge in their calculations. They express uncertainty about their computed value and seek to identify their mistake.

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The original poster is working under a time constraint due to an online assignment deadline. There is a lack of consensus on the correctness of the initial calculations, and the discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and progress.

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[SOLVED] Electrostatic Force

Homework Statement


The dipole moment of the water molecule H2O is 6.17x10^-30 Cm. Consider a water molecule located at the origin whose dipole moment p_vec points in the positive x direction. A chlorine ion (Cl-), of charge -1.60x10^-19 C, is located at x=3.00x10^-9 meters. Assume that this x value is much larger than the separation d between the charges in the dipole, so that the approximate expression for the electric field along the dipole axis can be used.

Find the magnitude of the electric force, ignoring the sign, that the water molecule exerts on the chlorine ion.

Homework Equations


E = p / (2pi*e0*x^3)
E = F/q
F = kq1q2/r^2
p = qr

e0 = 8.85*10^-12
q1 = -1.6*10^-19
x = 3*10^-9
p = 6.17*10^-30
k = 9*10^9


The Attempt at a Solution


We need to find the force. F is in two equations:
E = F/q
F = kq1q2/r^2

The first is the force of the electric field, not the force between two items, so we want the later equation.

We have k
We have q1
We have r (Assuming r = x)
We don't have q2

To find q2, we use one of the following:
p = qr
E = p / (2pi*e0*x^3)
E = F/q

The first is possible
The second we can't use as we don't have E
The third we can't use as we don't have E or F

So, p = q2*r
q2 = 6.17*10^-30 / 3*10^-9
q2 = 2.057*10^-21

Now to compute the force using:
k = 9*10^9
q1 = -1.6*10^-19
q2 = 2.057*10^-21
r = 3*10^-9

F = kq2q2/r^2
F = -3.2912*10^-13
Ignoring sign, 3.2912*10^-13

This answer is incorrect.
Where is my mistake?
 
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Been working on this all week, and this is all I have. It's an online assignment which as due at midnight EST (Aka, in 50 minutes).

Could someone take a look before then? If not, it's cool.
 
Solved it.
 
Could you show how you solved this? TIA
 
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