Calculating κ: Find the Value of (√3)^7 + (√3)^5 + (√3)^3 + 42(√3)

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the expression (√3)^7 + (√3)^5 + (√3)^3 + 42(√3) and expressing it in the form of 3^κ. Participants are exploring the relationships between powers of √3 and their equivalent forms in terms of base 3.

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  • Participants discuss factoring out √3 from the expression and simplifying the resulting terms. Questions arise regarding how to calculate the contributions of each term and how to express the final result in terms of powers of 3.

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Some participants have provided guidance on factoring and simplifying the expression, while others are seeking clarification on the steps involved. There is an ongoing exploration of how to combine the terms and express the final result correctly.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations involved in simplifying the expression and how to derive the value of κ from the final form. There is a focus on ensuring that the steps taken do not lead to premature conclusions.

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Given that (√3)^7 + (√3)^5 + (√3)^3 + 42(√3) may be expressed as 3^κ,
find the value of κ


Now I know that (√3)^ 7 is the same as 3^3.5 so I have 3.5, 2.5 and 1.5 but i have no idea how to calculate 42 (√3). Please help :(
 
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styxrihocc said:
Given that (√3)^7 + (√3)^5 + (√3)^3 + 42(√3) may be expressed as 3^κ,
find the value of κ


Now I know that (√3)^ 7 is the same as 3^3.5 so I have 3.5, 2.5 and 1.5 but i have no idea how to calculate 42 (√3). Please help :(

Factor out a square root of 3.
[itex](\sqrt{3})^7 + (\sqrt{3})^5 + (\sqrt{3})^3 + 42(\sqrt{3}) = \sqrt{3}(\text{...} + \text{...} + \text{...} + 42)[/itex]
The expression inside the parentheses will simplify nicely.
 
I'm sorry i don't get it, how is that supposed to solve the problem? would be great if you could explain in detail
 
styxrihocc said:
I'm sorry i don't get it, how is that supposed to solve the problem? would be great if you could explain in detail

Without giving it away, I am factoring out the greatest common factor. If you have a polynomial like this:
x4 - 3x3 - 11x2 + 33x

The GCF would be x, so factoring it out would give you this:
x(x3 - 3x2 - 11x + 33)

In the same way, the GCF of the expression you have is the sqrt root of 3, so factor it out. What is the resulting expression inside the parentheses?
 
√3(√3^6+√3^4+√3^2+42)
so how do i find κ?
 
styxrihocc said:
√3(√3^6+√3^4+√3^2+42)
so how do i find κ?
Now simplify what is in the parentheses.
What is
[itex](\sqrt{3})^6[/itex]?
[itex](\sqrt{3})^4[/itex]?
[itex](\sqrt{3})^2[/itex]?
 
27+9+3+42 so 81 total...what now??
 
So you have
[itex]81\sqrt{3}[/itex]
Write 81 as a power of 3.
81 = 3?
And you know that
[itex]\sqrt{3} = 3^{1/2}[/itex].
Put it all together...?
 
damn now i feel really stupid having asked the question because that makes perfect sense. thanks a lot man
 

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