Calculating Kinetic Energy for a Satellite Launch

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of a satellite when it is far away from a planet, given its initial kinetic energy, the mass of the satellite, the mass of the planet, and the planet's radius. The context involves concepts of kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy in a physics problem related to satellite motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the escape velocity formula and kinetic energy equations to determine the kinetic energy of the satellite at an infinite distance from the planet. Some participants question the use of escape velocity and suggest revisiting the foundational concepts of kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a productive dialogue, with some offering guidance on the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy at different distances from the planet. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's approach, but also a suggestion to refine the understanding of the underlying principles.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need for clarity regarding the definitions of kinetic energy and potential energy, particularly in the context of the satellite's motion and the conditions at infinity.

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Homework Statement



So I just finished a physics test and I'm not sure if I approached a question correctly... Our professor gave us the mass of a satellite, and the mass of an imaginary planet and its radius. Then he gave us the amount of initial kinetic energy given to the satellite when launched. His question was "how much kinetic energy will the satellite have when its very very very far away?" (Assuming no other planet or star is exerting a gravitational force on it)

The Attempt at a Solution



The approach I took was as follows... I used the equation for escape velocity v=\sqrt{}2GM/r ...then using the necessary escape velocity, I used 1/2mv^2 I found the minimum initial kinetic energy for the satellite to escape the planet's orbit. Finally, I subtracted this minimum energy from the actual initial energy given to the satellite to get the final answer.

Does this sound right?
 
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hi alicia! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a square-root: √ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

yes, that's correct :smile:

i think you're confused because you're using escape velocity instead of going back to the basics of KE and PE …

escape velocity is the speed (!) ve needed to reach r = ∞ at speed zero

so, since PE is defined as zero, KE + PE = KEr + PEr, ie 0 + 0 = 1/2 mve2 + PEr,

and if v0 > ve, then KE = KEr + PEr = KEr - 1/2 mve2 :wink:
 
Thanks! I think that's ultimately what I did...I ended up subtracting 1/2mve2 from the initial kinetic energy given to the satellite when it was on the surface of the planet. I just didn't do it very elegantly. Sometimes I have to play around with equations before I know what I want to do!
 
hi alicia! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)

that's fine … playing around is often a good way of solving things, but (if you have time in the exams) always try to squeeze out the extra couple of marks by making it elegant! :wink:

think "elegant, not elephant!" :biggrin:
 

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