How Do You Calculate the Mass of an Isotope?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of the isotope Polonium-210 in atomic mass units (amu). Participants are exploring the relationship between protons, neutrons, and the average atomic mass of isotopes versus elements.

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  • Participants discuss the method of calculating the mass of an isotope by summing the masses of protons and neutrons. There is a question about the average atomic mass and how it relates to individual isotopes. Some participants also raise points about the concept of mass excess and the binding energy of nuclei.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the definitions of average atomic mass and the mass of isotopes. There is a recognition of the need to reference experimental data for accurate atomic mass values.

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Some participants note the distinction between average atomic mass and the whole-number masses of isotopes, as well as the implications of binding energy on mass calculations. There is mention of the conversion between amu and kilograms, indicating a potential area of confusion.

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I'm trying to find the mass of a given isotope in terms of amu. The isotope is ^{210}_{84} Po, which has a mass of 209.98285u.
I've tried 84(1.007276u) + 126(1.008665u)
thinking that #protons(proton mass in amu) + #neutrons(neutron mass in amu) = mass in amu, give or take.

Can anyone help?
 
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The mass your using, 209.982 amu, is the average atomic mass. This means that, on average, taking all the isotopes and their abundances into account, a sample of Polonium will have a mass of 209.982 g/mol.

But isotopes have whole number masses (you can't have parts of a proton or neutron). The form in which you wrote the isotope gives you the answer,
^{210}_{84} Po
means that the isotope has a mass of 210 gram/mol and an atomic number of 84.
 
That makes sense. So, how would I get any given isotope's average atomic mass?
 
elements have an average atomic mass, not isotopes. There maybe several isotopes of a certain element, each isotope having its own, whole-numbered, mass. When you do a weighted average based on the abundance of the isotope, you can get the average atomic mass of the element.
To get the mass of an isotope, just add the protons and neutrons together.
 
The mass of a nucleus is smaller than the sum of the masses of its free constituents, because of the binding energy.ehild
 
ehild said:
The mass of a nucleus is smaller than the sum of the masses of its free constituents, because of the binding energy.ehild

But if you sum up the weight of every particle you would get: 126*(1.008664u) + 84*(1.007276u) = 211,702848 u

Greater, not equal to 210.
 
I think you need to convert the mass in amu to kg-s, don't you?


ehild
 
They are the same, 1 amu = 1 g/mol
 
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The unified mass unit is unit for mass and converts to kg in the SI system. 1 amu = 0.001/NA kg = 1.660538782 * 10-27 kg.

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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_energy#Mass_excess

Wikipedia said:
It is observed experimentally that the mass of the nucleus is smaller than the number of nucleons each counted with a mass of 1 a.m.u.. This difference is called mass excess.

The difference between the actual mass of the nucleus measured in atomic mass units and the number of nucleons is called mass excess i.e.

Mass excess = M - A = Excess-energy / c2

with : M equals the actual mass of the nucleus, in u.
and : A equals the mass number.

This mass excess is a practical value calculated from experimentally measured nucleon masses and stored in nuclear databases. For middle-weight nuclides this value is negative in contrast to the mass defect which is never negative for any nuclide.

Apparently, to find the exact atomic mass in amu, you have to look it up in a table with experimental results.
 

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