Calculating Mass of Impacting Material

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the mass of granular material, specifically grain, impacting a rigid object, such as a fixed metal plate. Participants explore the feasibility of using known parameters like impact force, velocity, and time of impact to derive the mass, while also considering practical measurement methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a formula for calculating mass based on impact force, time of impact, and velocity of the granular material.
  • Another participant confirms the validity of the formula, relating it to the concepts of impulse and momentum.
  • A participant expresses interest in measuring mass for flow metering purposes, indicating a practical application for the discussion.
  • Alternative measurement methods are suggested, including the use of a pendulum to determine momentum based on displacement angle, and a "grain-turbine" that could measure induced current.

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Participants generally agree on the potential validity of the proposed formula and the existence of measurement methods, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the practical application of these ideas.

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The discussion does not resolve the assumptions underlying the proposed methods or the specific conditions under which they would be effective. There is also no detailed exploration of the limitations of the suggested approaches.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in measuring mass in granular flow applications, particularly in engineering or physics contexts related to impact dynamics and measurement techniques.

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I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to accurately calculate the mass of a granular material (something like grain) impacting a very rigid object (a fixed metal plate) if the velocity of the granular material, impact force, and time of impact are known. After googling around a bit I've come up with the following formula:

m = (impact force * time of impact) / (velocity of granular material)

Am I on the right track or way out in left field? What are some of the important things to consider when trying to measure mass in this way?

Physics is not a strong-point of mine so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Yes, I believe there are methods.

However I must ask. Is this a theoretical question or do you actually need to measure the mass of the grains.

The formula you quote looks right.

Impulse = Force*Time = Momentum

So on the top of your equation you have momentum which is equal to the Mass * Velocity.

You then divide by the velocity which should indeed give you the mass.

:smile:
 
Yes, I'm interested in finding the mass of grain for flow metering purposes.

Thank you for your help.
 
My first thought on this matter would be that a pendulum should serve your needs adequately.

You can determine the momentum of the material impacting upon the pendulum from the angle at which it is displaced.

Many configurations of pendulum are possible. It all really depends on what your constraints are.

Perhaps even some kind of "grain-turbine" measuring an induced current could do the trick.

Anyway, let us know how it works out. Best of Luck!
 
Thank you for your thoughts. I will consider them as I continue to play around with this project.
 

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