Calculating maximum amplitude of atomic vibrations

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The discussion centers on the theoretical prediction of maximum amplitude of atomic vibrations in metallic species, specifically Copper, at given temperatures. It highlights Einstein's model, which treats each atom as three independent harmonic oscillators, and Debye's improved model that accounts for inter-oscillator interactions. The average energy per atom is calculated using specific formulas derived from these models. Ultimately, it concludes that while average amplitudes can be calculated, the maximum amplitude is theoretically unbounded due to energy fluctuations in a heat bath.

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Is it possible to predict theoretically the maximum amplitude of vibration that atoms of a metallic species, like Copper, will exhibit at a given temperature?
 
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Well, I'm not sure about maximum amplitude of vibration. It is possible to calculate average energy per atom and thus average amplitude of vibration.

Einstein used a simplified model, in which each atom represents three harmonic oscillators (for the three dimensions). All the oscillators are considered independent. This independence can't be correct of course, but the model still gives rather good predictions, except for very low temperatures. The average energy (that is per atom, per dimension) turns out to be:
\frac{1}{2}\hbar\omega+\frac{\hbar\omega}{e^{\frac{\hbar\omega}{kT}}-1}

Debye improved on this model by taking into account that the oscillators affect each other. Now oscillation of any of the atoms will propagate through the whole thing. Debye made some clever assumptions which allowed him to solve the equations that arise in this situation. His result for the average energy (again per atom, per dimension) was
\frac{3}{8}\hbar\omega_D+\frac{3\hbar}{\omega_D^3}\int_0^{\omega_D}\frac{\omega^3}{e^{\frac{\hbar\omega}{kT}}-1}
with
\omega_D^3=6\pi^2\frac{N}{V}\overline{v}^3.
\overline{v} is the average velocity of the propagating waves in the crystal, N the number of atoms and V the volume.

As you may notice Debye's method is a little harder to use. So, when you're not dealing with very low temperatures, you might as well use Einstein's results. I'll leave it to you to calculate the amplitude from these results.

Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debye_model" for some more information about both models.
 
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Thank you Mr.Miyagi for your reply, but I am interested in calculating the maximum possible amplitude of atomic vibrations.
 
Well, it is unbounded. The fact is that the energy of the crystal fluctuates at a constant temperature, as does any system in a heat bath. Noticeable fluctuations almost never occur, but they can happen.

So, worst case scenario: the copper samples disintegrates right in your face, because a huge energy fluctuation occurred. But for this to happen you have to wait for a long, long, long time (on average!).
 
Thank you Mr.Miyagi. So there can be no 'maximum' amplitude as all amplitudes are statistically possible. Is that right?
 
That is correct.
 
why? why atoms vibrate?
by vibration the atoms are moving. so there must be a kinetic energy. so there must be dissipated heat? what is the velocity of an atom when it is vibrating? what is the amplitude? or displacemet?
 

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