Calculating Maximum Bending Moment and Radius of Curvature for a Round Beam

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum bending moment and the radius of curvature for a round beam with a specified diameter and material properties, including Young's modulus and allowable stress due to bending.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the maximum allowable bending moment using the bending stress and the neutral axis assumption. There are attempts to derive the radius of curvature from the bending stress and Young's modulus. Some participants express confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of formulas.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing detailed calculations and others questioning the accuracy of the methods used. There is a recognition of potential issues with unit consistency and the interpretation of equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There are indications of confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of bending equations, which may affect the clarity of the calculations presented. Participants are encouraged to specify units clearly in their workings.

Confusedbiomedeng

Homework Statement


A round bar .125mm in diameter , is to be used as a beam. IF Youngs modulus For the material E=200x103N/mm2 and the stress due to bending is limited to 17.5N/mm2
A) Maximum allowable bending moment
B) the radius of curvature at the point of Maximum bending moment

Homework Equations


σ/y=m/i=E/R
Ina=πD4/64

The Attempt at a Solution


A) 17.5/(125/2)=M/1.1x107 Bending moment =3080000
Ina=1.1x107

B) 17.5/125/2=7/25

=> R= 7/25/200x103 R=1.4mm
 
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Confusedbiomedeng said:

Homework Statement


A round bar .125mm in diameter , is to be used as a beam. IF Youngs modulus For the material E=200x103N/mm2 and the stress due to bending is limited to 17.5N/mm2
A) Maximum allowable bending moment
B) the radius of curvature at the point of Maximum bending moment

Homework Equations


σ/y=m/i=E/R
Ina=πD4/64

The Attempt at a Solution


A) 17.5/(125/2)=M/1.1x107 Bending moment =3080000
Ina=1.1x107

B) 17.5/125/2=7/25

=> R= 7/25/200x103 R=1.4mm
As mentioned in your other thread, there seem to be some issues with units conversion.
Please post your working again, in a bit more detail, specifying units at all times.
 
so for allowable bending moment i took the stress 17.5 N/mm2 and divided it by 125/2 assuming neutral axis to be down the centre which gave me and answer of 7/25 this was then equal to m over π(1254 )/64which is the equation for moment of inertia, that was an answer of 1.1x107. to get M alone i multiplied both sides by 1.1x107 giving 308x104 N/mm4 since in the question the values are given in terms of mm i left the diameter in mm.

and for B) again I put stress over neutral axis and got 7/25 put that equal to 200x103 over R. To get R alone i divided both sides by 200x103 to get R out as 1.4mm

does this answer your previous question.
 
Confusedbiomedeng said:
so for allowable bending moment i took the stress 17.5 N/mm2 and divided it by 125/2 assuming neutral axis to be down the centre which gave me and answer of 7/25 this was then equal to m over π(1254 )/64which is the equation for moment of inertia, that was an answer of 1.1x107. to get M alone i multiplied both sides by 1.1x107 giving 308x104 N/mm4 since in the question the values are given in terms of mm i left the diameter in mm.

and for B) again I put stress over neutral axis and got 7/25 put that equal to 200x103 over R. To get R alone i divided both sides by 200x103 to get R out as 1.4mm

does this answer your previous question.
That isn't quite what I asked for, but anyway...
Confusedbiomedeng said:
> R= 7/25/200x103 R=1.4mm
I still do not understand this line. Your quoted equation is that σ/y = E/R, but you seem to have done R=(σ/y)/E. Further, I do not understand how 0.28/(200x103) gives 1.4. Shouldn't it be 1.4x10-6? Since you believe you have standardised on mm as the unit of distance, there should be no final units conversion.
 

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