Calculating Mechanical Energy Loss in Block-Spring System

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The discussion revolves around a block-spring system where a block of mass M slides on a horizontal surface and interacts with a spring after experiencing a variable friction force. The problem involves calculating the loss of mechanical energy when the block comes to a momentary stop.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of equations related to energy loss and the work done by friction. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the initial equations presented and the definitions of terms like "fx." There are suggestions to find the distance to stop and to consider the work done by friction as the non-conservative force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the relationships between forces and energy. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to find the stopping distance and the work done by friction, but there is no explicit consensus on the final formulation of the equations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of variable friction and its impact on energy loss, with some uncertainty about the definitions and calculations involved. The original poster's assumptions and the variable nature of the friction coefficient are under consideration.

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a block of mass M slides along a horizontal table with speed v0 at x=0 it hits a spring with spring constant k and begins to experience a friction force. the coefficient of friction is variable and is given by u=bx where b is a constnat.
find the loss in mechanical energy when the block has first come momentarily to rest.

i got to this equation (im not sure it's correct):
fx+kx^2/2-mv0^2/2
is this correct?
 
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1) That is not an equation.
2) What is fx?
3) Energy is not conserved (edit: you could probably still do it this way)

Just try finding all the forces and then finding and solving the resulting differential equation.
 
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Another way to do it, you could:
1. Find the distance it takes to stop
2. Since friction is the only non-conservative force acting on the block, find the work done by friction over that distance.
 
fx is the is the work done by the friction force over the displacement x.

so by orthodontist the loss of mechanical energy equals the work of friction.
but shouldn't the equation be:
W_f=E_0-E_v0=kx^2/2-mv0^2/2
then what is the equation of the loss of ME.
 
What's the work done by friction? (not fx, but in terms of the coefficient of friction)
 
f=bxmg
then the work equals bmgx^2/2
 
That's correct.
 
is this answer to my original question, the loss of M.E is the work done by the friction on the block.
 
Yes, but you have to find x.
 
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then i should use the equation i typed on post #4, right?
 
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loop quantum gravity said:
then i should use the equation i typed on post #4, right?
can someone please tell me if I am right here?
 

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