Calculating Net Displacement Using Vectors

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The problem involves calculating the net displacement of a bird that flies a specified distance in two different directions, specifically using vector analysis. The subject area is vector addition and displacement in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of formulas and vector components, with some suggesting visual representation through drawings. There are attempts to break down the second vector into horizontal and vertical components, and questions arise about the appropriateness of certain formulas.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of vector components and visual aids, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of accurately representing the vectors in a drawing, including scale and angles, which may affect the understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A bird flies 100m due east from a tree, then 200m northwest (that is 45° north of west). What is the bird’s
net displacement?

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I am looking for the formula , which solve this task. We need to use vectors ,but I don't know the formula.
 
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Well then, forget about formulas. Can you solve it by drawing a picture? (Maybe on graph paper?) After that, we'll talk about the math.
 
[PLAIN]http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9901/kokoj.jpg

And now what ? Maybe I needto use this formula S=a*b*cos45
 
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skp123 said:
[PLAIN]http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9901/kokoj.jpg

And now what ? Maybe I needto use this formula S=a*b*cos45

It would be easier for you to visualise if you shift the 200 vector to the other side of the 100 vector. Then, break the 200 vector into horizontal and vertical components.
It will be 200Cos45 horizontal and 200Sin45 vertical.
So your net horizontal displacement will be (100 + 200Cos45) and vertical displacement will be 200Sin45.

Now you've got a right angle triangle of displacements, which you can use Pythagoras' Theorem on to solve for the net displacement.
 
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[PLAIN]http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9901/kokoj.jpg

And now what ? Maybe I needto use this formula S=a*b*cos45
For one thing, it would help if you make the drawing to scale. So the 100m line should be half the length of the 200m line, and the angle should really be 45 degrees. (And I would not suggest shifting the vectors as Maybe_Memorie suggested, at least not just yet. The point now is for you to be able to see the path of the bird.)
 
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