Calculating normal force for wedge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the normal force between a block and a wedge, specifically proving the relationship N = m*sqrt(g^2-a^2). The subject area includes mechanics and forces, particularly focusing on normal forces and their derivation using the Pythagorean theorem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Pythagorean theorem and its relevance to the problem. There are questions about the correctness of the initial approach and whether the derived formula fits the scenario described.

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Some participants express agreement with the original poster's approach, while others clarify conditions under which the derived formula holds true. There is an exploration of the mathematical steps involved in arriving at the formula, with one participant providing a detailed breakdown of the reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the derivation is specific to the case where a = gsinθ, indicating a potential constraint in the generality of the solution. There is also mention of the original poster's uncertainty regarding their mathematical reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Prove that normal force between a block and wedge is: N = m*sqrt(g^2-a^2)


Homework Equations


I used the pythagorean theorem to attempt this.


The Attempt at a Solution


See attached.

Am I doing this right, or am I making up math here to fit the answer?
 

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I think that is correct but that is only for the given case when a=gsinθ. (Which is correct as your free body diagram is showing)
 
Thanks for your help!
 
[itex]F_{N}=F_{g}sin\theta[/itex]
 
Looks right. I assume you are wondering about pulling the m from the square root. It may be the long way around, but try expanding.

[tex]N^2 = (mg)^2-(ma)^2[/tex]

can be expanded into:

[tex]N^2 = mmgg-mmaa[/tex]

factor out the m squared:

[tex]N^2 = mm(gg-aa)[/tex]
[tex]N^2 = m^2(g^2-a^2)[/tex]

Take the square root of both sides (raise both sides to the half power):

[tex]N = \sqrt{m^2(g^2-a^2)}[/tex]
[tex]N = m\sqrt{g^2-a^2}[/tex]

I know this is a long winded response to a relatively simple question, but I am new to helping on the forums and trying to figure out how to use LaTeX. Sorry I am just a beginner myself, but I hope it may give you some insight into the math involved.
 

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