Calculating Orbital Distance for a Satellite in Circular Orbit around Mars

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The discussion revolves around calculating the orbital distance for a satellite in a circular orbit around Mars, specifically focusing on maintaining a stationary position above the Martian equator.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definition of 'station' in the context of orbital mechanics and discuss the equations governing circular orbits. There is an examination of the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, as well as the implications of Mars' rotational period on the satellite's orbit.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the correct application of equations and suggesting ways to express the orbital period in terms of velocity. There is a collaborative effort to refine the equations and clarify the steps needed to find the orbital radius.

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Participants reference specific values for Mars, including its mass and radius, as well as its period of rotation, which are essential for the calculations being discussed. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct application of physical principles and mathematical relationships.

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NASA wants to fire a satellite into a circular orbit around Mars that will maintain 'station' above the Martian equator.
what is the distance from the surface of mars?


ok first of all does the term 'station' refer to when g = 0?

and the equation I've used is:
Fc = Fg
mv²/r = GMm/r²

the two 'm' values cancel out and then I am left with:

v²/r = GM/r²

is it then possible to transform the equation into:

r = (GM/r²)*v²

is this procedure correct?
 
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By stationary it means that it will remain at that altitude, not falling or going up at all. Also I think given the context it means that it will be in a geostationary orbit, so it's period is the same as the planets rotational period. (I.e for the earth, it's period would be 24 hours, you'll have to look up the value for mars).

The first step you've used is correct;

\frac{v^2}{r} = \frac{GM}{r^2}

but check the next step...remember you're multiplying by r...not v.

Next can you think of a way of expressing the period of the shuttle in terms of the velocity? (Hint: think of the orbit as a circle, with radius 2pi r, if it's going at speed v, what is the time period T?) You'll have to think of a way of getting that T into the equation above to solve for r.
 
period of rotation of Mars = 8.86 x 10^4 s
mass of Mars = 6.42 x 10^23 kg
Radius of Mars = 3.40 x 10^6 m

if i use v=2πr/T
v = 2*π*3.4e+6 / 8.86e+4
=241.1 m/s

wait, so would my new equation be:
r³ = GM/v² ?

or would i have to go back a few steps and turn it into:
4π²r/T² = GM/r²

if i took that step my equation could then become:
T²/R³ = 4π²/GM
 
Dark_Dragon said:
or would i have to go back a few steps and turn it into:
4π²r/T² = GM/r²

if i took that step my equation could then become:
T²/R³ = 4π²/GM

This is spot on, so now you know the time period, you can find out the radius of its orbit.
 
ok thank you so much for your help =)
 

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