Calculating pressure and temperature

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature and pressure of a gas given certain parameters, including the peak speed of gas atoms, the number of atoms, and the volume of the container. The original poster expresses a desire to explore the problem without revealing specific details to avoid receiving direct answers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of the provided equation, questioning its applicability due to the absence of temperature. The original poster provides modified values for the gas parameters, prompting further exploration of potential formulas. Suggestions include using the ideal gas law and considerations of kinetic theory.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on potential formulas and approaches. There is an acknowledgment of the limitations in the information provided, and some participants suggest using the speed of gas atoms to derive pressure or temperature.

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The original poster has chosen not to disclose specific values to avoid direct solutions, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The parameters provided include a specific volume and number of gas atoms, but pressure and temperature remain unknown.

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Homework Statement


Hello any help would be really really welcome, and I really need some.

how would I Calculate the temperature and pressure of a gas? I know the peak of the distribution of the atoms, the number of atoms and the volume of the container.

(not going to give specifics as I don't want to risk being given the answer)

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would I use this P + 1/2ρ v^2 + ρgh = constant.


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Well the equation that you've given does not have temperature, so it would be tough to use that one. Give us some made up numbers if you don't want the right answer
 
hello, thanks for the response

shall we say that the container is 1.0 x 10^-3 m^3 has 1.0 x 10^20 atoms of gas (H) in equilibrium The distribution of speeds of the gas atoms shows at 400 ms ^-1.

That is sort of the information I have... just changed a little.
 
Okay I don't know if there is a formula for this. But if its an ideal gas, you can use PV=nRT. I realize you have no pressure or temperature so you wouldn't be able to use that formula where we are now. But my intuition tells me that you can calculate either the pressure or temperature using the speed of the gas atoms. You have moles and you have volume, you also have R.
 
great. Thanks very much for the help, and I think that equation is exactley what I am looking for.

Thanks again
 
yessir
 

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