Calculating Probabilities for X and Y Normal Distributions

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The problem involves calculating probabilities related to two independent normal distributions, X and Y, representing score distributions in Math and Statistics, respectively. The distributions are defined as X~N(mean = 62, sigma=7) and Y~N(mean = 68, sigma=10). The original poster seeks to find various probabilities involving the sums and differences of these distributions.

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  • The original poster attempts to combine the two normal distributions to find the mean and variance of their sum. They express interest in calculating probabilities for specific conditions, such as P[X+Y>120] and P[X

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding notation and the calculation of variance, while others are exploring the implications of the original poster's calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations, but participants are engaging in constructive dialogue.

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Participants are addressing potential errors in the original poster's variance calculations and notation. There is an emphasis on maintaining a balance between providing guidance and not revealing complete solutions.

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X refers to score distribution in Math and Y refers to score distribution in Stat in a certain degree course exam. It is known that X~N(mean = 62, sigma=7) while Y~N(mean = 68, sigma=10). If X and Y are independent, find (i) P[X+Y>120]; (ii) P[X<Y]; (iii) P[X+Y>140]; (iv)P[100 < X+Y < 150].

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P(X+Y>120)...

So I have to combine X & Y into one Norm Distribution by find there combined E(x) & V(x)

E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y)=62+68=130

V(X+Y)=V(X)+V(Y)=7^2 + 10^2 = 149, Standard Dev = sqrt(149)

So where Z = X + Y > 120, Z~N(130,sqrt(149))

P(X+Y>120) = P(Z>120)=1-PHI((130-120)/sqrt(149))

Is this correct so far...


P(X<Y)=P(X-Y<0)

E(X-Y)=E(X)-E(Y) = 62-68=-6

V(X-Y) = V(X)+V(Y)=sqrt(149)

W~N(-6,sqrt(149))

P(X-Y<0)=P(W<0)=PHI((-6-0)\sqrt(149))

How does this look. The rest are basically the same I think if I got these two conceptualy correct. any issues?
 
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I haven't checked down to the arithmetic level but the approach looks good. One thing that helped me keep things straight notationally was this: When dealing with the first part, where you are working with the sum of two random variables, let S = X + Y. Then the work you have shows that S has a normal distribution with a particular mean and standard deviation, and I just found it easier to write
P(S &gt; 120) instead of the way you had it. Similar for the difference.

After a final glance I do see one item I believe you should reconsider. Do you REALLY want to write
<br /> V(X-Y) = V(X) + V(Y) = sqrt(149)<br />

(I am pointing my comment at what you have after the second equal sign) - remember in those steps you are finding a variance.
 
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statdad said:
I haven't checked down to the arithmetic level but the approach looks good. One thing that helped me keep things straight notationally was this: When dealing with the first part, where you are working with the sum of two random variables, let S = X + Y [/tex]. Then the work you have shows that S has a normal distribution with a particular mean and standard deviation, and I just found it easier to write <br /> P(S &amp;gt; 120) instead of the way you had it. Similar for the difference. <br /> <br /> After a final glance I do see one item I believe you should reconsider. Do you REALLY want to write<br /> &lt;br /&gt; V(X-Y) = V(X) + V(Y) = sqrt(149)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> (I am pointing my comment at what you have after the second equal sign) - remember in those steps you are finding a variance.
<br /> <br /> The equation ##V(X-Y) = V(X) + V(y)## is true if X and Y are independent, so what he wrote is correct. In fact, if ##a## and ##b## are constants, we have<br /> V(aX + bY) = a^2 V(X) + b^2 V(Y) for independent (or uncorrelated) X and Y, whether normally-distributed or not. It is a general result.
 
Ray Vickson said:
The equation ##V(X-Y) = V(X) + V(y)## is true if X and Y are independent, so what he wrote is correct. In fact, if ##a## and ##b## are constants, we have
V(aX + bY) = a^2 V(X) + b^2 V(Y) for independent (or uncorrelated) X and Y, whether normally-distributed or not. It is a general result.

I am aware of all this. You missed my point, however: it is likely my comment wasn't clear. The OP is attempting to calculate the variance of X - Y: the written equation was (my comments added)
<br /> V(X-Y) = \underbrace{V(X) + V(Y)}_{\text{Okay here}} = \overbrace{\text{sqrt}(149)}^{\text{My concern}}<br />

For emphasis, compare the ending of the above work to the ending of the line in which the variance of V(X + Y) was correctly calculated.

Marginally related comment: apologies for missing the fact that I screwed up a tag in one of my earlier posts.
 
statdad said:
I am aware of all this. You missed my point, however: it is likely my comment wasn't clear. The OP is attempting to calculate the variance of X - Y: the written equation was (my comments added)
<br /> V(X-Y) = \underbrace{V(X) + V(Y)}_{\text{Okay here}} = \overbrace{\text{sqrt}(149)}^{\text{My concern}}<br />

For emphasis, compare the ending of the above work to the ending of the line in which the variance of V(X + Y) was correctly calculated.

Marginally related comment: apologies for missing the fact that I screwed up a tag in one of my earlier posts.

Just to be clear: you (correctly) want him to write '149' instead of 'sqrt(149)'. To my shame, I missed that the first time around!
 
"Just to be clear: you (correctly) want him to write '149' instead of 'sqrt(149)'. To my shame, I missed that the first time around!"

No big deal. As I noted, I was not entirely clear in my original note. That comes, I am afraid, from reviewing student papers and wanting to point out issues for them without giving the whole thing away.
 
statdad said:
"Just to be clear: you (correctly) want him to write '149' instead of 'sqrt(149)'. To my shame, I missed that the first time around!"

No big deal. As I noted, I was not entirely clear in my original note. That comes, I am afraid, from reviewing student papers and wanting to point out issues for them without giving the whole thing away.

I agree with the 'not giving away' part, but he did already have the correct answer---or at least, the correct numerical inputs---so I did not feel guilty about laying out some more detail.
 
Probably true - actually, just plain "yup" on that. Finding a way to guide someone along giving support while pointing out subtle, tertiary level errors, is always a difficult task for me.
 

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