Calculating Probability for Continuous Random Vectors

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability for a continuous random vector defined by a probability density function. The original poster presents a problem involving the joint density of the random vector and seeks guidance on how to determine the probability that one component is greater than twice the other.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss visualizing the problem by drawing the relevant regions in the x1-x2 plane, questioning the appropriate formulas for joint density, and exploring the implications of the density being constant over a triangular region.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the correct approach to the problem, with some participants suggesting that drawing the regions is essential. There is a mix of uncertainty about the formulas and methods to apply, with some participants expressing confusion about the integration process and the nature of the joint density.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the region where the density is 1/2 forms a triangle, and there is discussion about the need for integration versus simply finding the overlap area. The original poster's understanding of the problem context appears to evolve throughout the discussion.

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1. The probability density function for the continuous random vector X = (X1, X2) is given by:

Fx1, x2(X1,X2) = { 1/2 if X1+X2[tex]\leq[/tex] 2,X1[tex]\geq[/tex] 0,X2[tex]\geq[/tex]0
0 otherwise }

Calculate the probability that X1>2X2



I do not know which formula to use. I can't find the right one. How do I do this?:confused: The joint density formula?
 
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Draw a picture in the x1x2 plane showing where the density is 1/2. Then, on the same picture, draw the region in question where x1>2x2. That should show you the region to work with.
 
LCKurtz said:
Draw a picture in the x1x2 plane showing where the density is 1/2. Then, on the same picture, draw the region in question where x1>2x2. That should show you the region to work with.

Yeah, I did that. However, I don't know which formula to use.
 
You integrate the probability density over the region where x1>2*x2.
 
Dick said:
You integrate the probability density over the region where x1>2*x2.

So joint density was right?
 
XodoX said:
So joint density was right?

If that's what you call integrating probability density over part of your region where x1>2*x2, then sure.
 
Joint density would be:

F x,y(x,y)=xe-x(y+1), x>0 ,y=0
 
XodoX said:
Joint density would be:

F x,y(x,y)=xe-x(y+1), x>0 ,y=0

That's not it. The region where density is 1/2 is a triangle. Does the picture you drew show that?
 
Dick said:
That's not it. The region where density is 1/2 is a triangle. Does the picture you drew show that?

Well, I actually didn't know that this one can not be used for triangles?
There's another formula I found for joint density...

F N,X(n,x)=Xne-2x/n!
 
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XodoX said:
Well, I actually didn't know that this one can not be used for triangles?
There's another formula I found for joint density...

F N,X(n,x)=Xne-2x/n!

Stop looking up formulas. You don't need them. It's not that complicated. LCKurtz said to draw a picture. You said you did. What does it look like? Describe the triangle where density is 1/2.
 
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XodoX said:
Joint density would be:

F x,y(x,y)=xe-x(y+1), x>0 ,y=0

Huh?? Where did that come from? You gave us the joint density in the original post. And the probability that X1>2X2 should be a number between 0 and 1.
 
  • #12
Well, I eventually solved it myself. Integration wasn't needed.
 
  • #13
XodoX said:
Well, I eventually solved it myself. Integration wasn't needed.

Good. That's always the best way to solve it. And, yes, you don't need explicit integration since the probability density isn't a function of x1 and x2. You just find the overlap area and multiply by 1/2.
 

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