Calculating Specific Volume of Hydrogen at Given Pressure and Temperature?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the specific volume of hydrogen gas at a specified pressure of 1000 mb and a temperature of +10° C. The participants explore the application of the ideal gas law and the necessary conversions for hydrogen's molecular weight.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the ideal gas law and its components, questioning the appropriate gas constant to use for hydrogen. There is also confusion regarding the mass of hydrogen and its conversion to moles, with some participants correcting initial assumptions about the sample size.

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The conversation has progressed with various approaches being suggested, including the use of density equations and direct application of the ideal gas law. Some participants have provided alternative methods for calculating specific volume, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus on a single method.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct molecular weight for hydrogen gas (H2) and the implications of using different mass values in calculations. Participants are also navigating the conversion between grams and moles, which affects their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A sample of hydrogen is at a pressure of 1000mb and a temperature of +10° C.
Calculate its specific volume.

Homework Equations



I'm guessing PV=mRT

The Attempt at a Solution



P=1 bar
m=2 g
R=constant (do I use the universal constant or is there a constant for Hydrogen? If so how do I find it)
T=283.15K
 
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The ideal gas law is PV=nRT where n is number of gas moles. You can use the ideal gas law, but you first have to find how many moles of hydrogen are in 2kg of hydrogen. To do this, you can use this conversion factor for hydrogen:

\displaystyle \frac{1.008 g}{mole}Hydrogen
 
Ok so I don't know why I typed 2kg of hydrogen. Its a sample of hydrogen which is 1 gram but since Hydrogen is H2 in the atmosphere it should be 2 grams which is 2 moles correct?
 
If the problem states that it's a 1 gram sample of Hydrogen, then the mass is 1 gram. Hydrogen gas is indeed H2, which means each molecule contains two Hydrogen atoms. To account for this, you make a new conversion factor for H2, multiplying the mass of hydrogen by 2.

\displaystyle \frac{2.016 g}{mole}H_2
 
Ok redid some work

Density = (P * MW) / (R * T)
0.9869231693139999 atm
Molecular weight of 2 g/mol
R = 0.08206 L*ATM / mol*K
T = 283.15K

1.97384/23.235289 = 0.08495 g/L

specific volume = 1/density
specific volume of hydrogen = 11.77163 g/L

Maybe yes?
 
It looks alright, but when you take 1/density at the end, the units change to L/g. However, there was no need to use the density equation. Allow me to show you a simpler way:

\displaystyle 1g\: H_2 ×\frac{1\: mole}{2.016 g}=0.5\:mole\: H_2

\displaystyle PV=nRT

\displaystyle V=\frac{nRT}{P}

n is the number of moles of H2 (0.5), R is the gas constant, and T and P are given. This gives the volume of one gram of hydrogen gas, which is equal to the specific volume.
 
Awesome, thanks for explaining an easier way too!
 

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