Calculating Surface Charge Density and Distance in a Conducting Sphere Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a charged conducting sphere, specifically focusing on calculating the surface charge density and determining the distance at which the potential is a specified value. The subject area includes electrostatics and concepts related to electric fields and potentials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between voltage, electric field, and charge, questioning how to derive the charge from the given voltage and area. There is discussion about using Gauss's law and the appropriate equations for electric fields and potentials.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the application of Gauss's law and the relationship between charge and surface charge density. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the voltage and electric field, with some confusion noted about units and concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of distinguishing between voltage and electric field, as well as the need to convert measurements from centimeters to meters. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions and relationships of the physical quantities involved.

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Homework Statement


A 32 cm diameter conducting sphere is charged to 500 V relative to V=0 and r = infinity.
(a) What is the surface charge density sigma?
(b) At what distance will the potential due to the sphere be only 10 V?


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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that to find the surface charge density I have to find charge/area. (Sigma = q/A) Finding the area just means finding the surface area of the sphere right? 4(pi)((0.16m)^2)
Is the charge 500 V? It seems like charge should be expressed in coulombs. I'm not really sure how to get the charge of the sphere.


Then to find the distance at which the potential is only 10 V
Do I use V= (1/4(pi)(eo)* sigma/r? where r is that distance and V = 10V?
 
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Hint: The field outside the sphere is the same as the field due to a point charge where the center of the sphere is... where the point charge is the total charge on the sphere...

Using this, you can find the total charge on the sphere... then the charge density.
 
To get the charge, remember Gauss' law?? The rest of what you're doing seems about right. Remember you are given the sphere diameter in cm not m.
 
The field outside the sphere is given by the equation E=k(Q/r^2)
I solved for Q and got units in C*m. Was it wrong for me to set E=500V?
 
langenase said:
The field outside the sphere is given by the equation E=k(Q/r^2)

Cool. That's right.

I solved for Q and got units in C*m. Was it wrong for me to set E=500V?

Yeah, that's wrong... what's the voltage due to a point charge... taking the voltage at r = infinity to be 0.
 
Once you've straightened all of this out, you may want to think about the Gauss law approach. Charge contained in a sphere at the surface is (500V)*A*e0 where A is the area. To convert that to surface charge just divide out the A. Using the point charge will (of course) give you the same thing. It's just a little bit longer way around.
 
Dick said:
Once you've straightened all of this out, you may want to think about the Gauss law approach. Charge contained in a sphere at the surface is (500V)*A*e0 where A is the area. To convert that to surface charge just divide out the A. Using the point charge will (of course) give you the same thing. It's just a little bit longer way around.

But the charge is E*A*e0 according to Gauss law... I'm probably missing something...
 
learningphysics said:
But the charge is E*A*e0 according to Gauss law... I'm probably missing something...

Sorry. I meant surface charge density, which is what the OP is asked for.
 
Dick said:
Sorry. I meant surface charge density, which is what the OP is asked for.

But the 500V is voltage not electric field...
 
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learningphysics said:
But the 500V is voltage not electric field...

Right, J/C not N/C. Please ignore me, I'm apparently having a fuzzy day. Thanks.
 
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Dick said:
Right, J/C not N/C. Please ignore me, I'm apparently having a fuzzy day. Thanks.

No prob. Your fuzzy days are quite rare from what I've seen of your posts. :smile:
 
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I'm a little confused about what to set E equal to. The voltage due to a point charge is when r is infinity is 0. But how does that relate to the electric field?
 
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langenase said:
I'm a little confused about what to set E equal to. The voltage due to a point charge is when r is infinity is 0. But how does that relate to the electric field?

Voltage due to a point charge = kQ/r.

You have voltage... you have r, you can solve for Q.
 

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