Calculating Tension Life of a Spring for Valve Application

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension life of a spring used in a valve application, focusing on how long the tension in the spring remains constant. Participants explore various factors affecting spring performance, including material properties and operational conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that creep tests on materials may be relevant, proposing that the decay of the spring's restoring force could correlate with stress relaxation of the material.
  • Another participant notes that springs are typically used within their elastic range, indicating that creep is a concern primarily in heated environments where temperatures exceed a certain threshold.
  • Fatigue is mentioned as a potential limiting factor, with considerations of fracture toughness and fatigue resistance of the material being important.
  • A reference to the Langer-O'Donnell curve is made, which relates fatigue cycles to failure at different stress levels, particularly in the nuclear industry.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether the spring operates under constant tension or experiences cycling loads, suggesting that the operational details of the valve need further clarification.
  • A mention of Richard Hertzberg's work is included, indicating that he has researched related phenomena, though the relevance to the current discussion is not fully established.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific conditions affecting the spring's tension life, with multiple competing views on the relevance of creep, fatigue, and operational conditions remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the operational environment of the spring, the definitions of terms like "constant tension," and the need for further details on the valve's operational characteristics.

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hi,

Our counterparts have designed a spring for a valve application.
the entire component depends on the tension of the spring
We need to calculate the tension life of a spring(i.e the duration for which the tension in a spring remains a constant)
Please provide me a solution

Thanks
 
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I don't know if there's specific studies on springs, but there are more likely to be creep tests for different materials under different fixed stresses. I would imagine the decay of the spring restoring force to be strongly correlated to the creep-related stress relaxation of the parent material.
 
Normally a spring would be used well within its 'elastic range', i.e. such that the peak local stress was well below is yield strength. Creep would only be an issue if it was in a heated environment with the operating temperature above about 0.35 of melting temp.

Fatigue may be the limiting case, and that depends on the fracture toughness and fatigue resistance of the material, as well as the largest allowable imperfection in the material.

See if you can find a Langer-O'Donnell curve (fatigue cycles to failure for a given stress level). Sometimes is called O'Donnell and Langer model (or curve). However, those are names in the nuclear industry.

Alternatively, look for S-N curve, or search google for "S-N","fatigue", e.g.
http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Materials/Mechanical/S-NFatigue.htm
 
Oops. I misuderstood the OP (particularly the bit in parentheses) to mean the spring was under constant tension during its entire life (i.e., no cycling loads).
 
Gokul43201 said:
Oops. I misuderstood the OP (particularly the bit in parentheses) to mean the spring was under constant tension during its entire life (i.e., no cycling loads).
Well it's not really clear. The actual operation needs to be discussed in more detail. Depending on the valve, it might be under constant tension with very infrequent change. If it is a control valve, then there is a good chance that there is some type of variation in load - even if it's high frequency, low amplitude. I believe Richard Hertzberg (Lehigh Univ) has looked at this phenomenon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471012149/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I met him when during a presentation to our local ASM chapter. Nice guy.

http://www.lehigh.edu/~inmatsci/faculty/hertzberg/Hertzberg.htm
 
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