Calculating the final speed using Force/Time Graph

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The problem involves calculating the final speed of a golf ball struck by a club, using a force versus time graph. The mass of the golf ball is given as 0.1 kg, and participants are exploring the relationship between force, impulse, and momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the impulse-momentum theorem and the calculation of impulse as the area under the force-time graph. There are attempts to derive the final speed using different methods, including average force and area of the triangle.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing clarification regarding the definitions of impulse and momentum, with some participants questioning the calculations and the interpretation of the average force. Multiple interpretations of the results are being explored, and guidance has been provided on the relationship between impulse and momentum.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential confusion regarding the average force value and its relevance to the calculations. The time of contact is specified as 80 milliseconds, which is also a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement



A golfer strikes a stationary golf ball, and the force applied by the club on the ball varies as shown in the graph below. Use this graph to determine the final speed of the golf ball. The mass of the golf ball is 0.1kg

Homework Equations



Area of triangle = 1/2bh (then times by two for the full area.) Or AvgFt=m(v-u)

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried avgF*t= m(v-u) and put 100*0.04=0.1(v-0) = 4/0.1 = 40m/s

also tried Area of Triangle = 1/2bh = 0.5*0.04*100 = 2 Then 2*2 = 4m/s to get the full triangle.
 

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Final speed? As in t= 80?
 
Welcome to PH Forums.

The average Force during the 80 milliseconds of contact is 50 Newtons.

What does the Impulse - Momentum Theorem say? -- or -- How is impulse related to momentum?
 
it says Time of Contact / ms so I assume it's milliseconds.
 
SammyS said:
Welcome to PH Forums.

The average Force during the 80 milliseconds of contact is 50 Newtons.

What does the Impulse - Momentum Theorem say? -- or -- How is impulse related to momentum?

Impulse = Momentum?
 
Nizzeh said:
Impulse = Momentum?

Not quite right. Look again.
 
SammyS said:
Not quite right. Look again.

Impulse = Change in Momentum.
 
Nizzeh said:
Impulse = Change in Momentum.
Yes, that's it. Although, in this case, the ball starts out having zero momentum.
 
SammyS said:
Yes, that's it. Although, in this case, the ball starts out having zero momentum.

Ok so how did you get this? I am confused? Sorry about this.. what calculation would I do?
 
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The impulse is the area under the graph, that's the area of the triangle. You have that right as 4 N-s = 4 kg-m/s .

You answer of 40 m/s also looks to be correct.
 
  • #11
SammyS said:
The impulse is the area under the graph, that's the area of the triangle. You have that right as 4 N-s = 4 kg-m/s .

You answer of 40 m/s also looks to be correct.

So which is the actual answer? you wrote 50 above which kinda confused me.
 
  • #12
What did I say about 50 Newtons ? I said it was the average force during the 80 ms of contact. That's all
 
  • #13
SammyS said:
What did I say about 50 Newtons ? I said it was the average force during the 80 ms of contact. That's all

Ok so the formula I'd use and the solution is what?
 

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