Calculating the power consumed by an astable multivibrator

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power consumption of an astable multivibrator used to send an alternating current across a load. Participants explore the implications of load resistance on circuit performance and seek to optimize the multivibrator's power usage.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes modifying an astable multivibrator to send a square wave across a load and notes issues with power consumption when the load resistance is too low.
  • Another participant explains the operation of the circuit, suggesting that the power supply may not be providing enough current to support the load and discusses the role of resistors R1 and R4 in the circuit.
  • A later reply expresses interest in optimizing the multivibrator's power usage and questions how to determine the optimal values for resistors R2 and R3, indicating uncertainty about the current distribution in the circuit.
  • One participant indicates they have posted a follow-up question regarding optimization in a new thread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to calculate power consumption or optimize the multivibrator, and multiple viewpoints regarding circuit operation and power supply adequacy are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the significance of certain circuit components and the calculations needed for optimization, indicating a reliance on approximations that may not fully capture the circuit's behavior.

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Individuals interested in circuit design, particularly those working with multivibrators and power consumption in electronic circuits.

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I modified an astable multivibrator to send an alternating current across a load (square wave centered at 0V), given a DC power supply. The multivibrator is connected to to the load through an H-bridge and the multivibrator alternates which switches are on and off via transistors. The point is that the multivibrator saps out a certain amount of power and the rest is left to flow across the load.

My problem is that if the resistance of the load is too small, square wave deteriorates. I am positive this is because the device not getting enough power because too much current is flowing across the load.

I am not sure how to calculate the power consumption of an astable multivibrator. I know how to calculate power consumption of simple LRC circuits, but my background and experience in circuitry is limited to the electronics/circuits section of some introductory physics courses.

Here is one of MANY links to the multivibrator my circuit is based on:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Transistor_Multivibrator.svg

PS: What is the significance of R1 and R4 in this design--there was not a SINGLE article that discussed that!
 
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Imagine Q1 is in saturation so the voltage across R1 is ~+V. When Q1 turned on, C1 transferred the 0V at the collector of Q1 to the base of Q2, turning it off. Now C1 is charging through R2 and eventually the voltage on the right side of the capacitor will be enough to turn on Q2. When that happens the falling voltage on the collector of Q2 will be transferred to the base of Q1, turning it off. R1 and R4 develop the voltage that turns on or turns off the other transistor.

The total current of the circuit will be very close to +V/R1 and the power would be +V^2/R. It seems to me your problem is that your power supply cannot supply enough current to power the load. Could you run your load from a different supply than that for your multivibrator?
 
Thank you very much. As I followed your description on the circuit simulator, I could see everything you described happening.

I suppose I could come up with a way to have the multivibrator connect to a different power supply.

However, this begs the question (which perhaps should be a new thread):
How can I optimize the multivibrator to use the minimum power necessary to function?

I guess, since most of the current is flowing through R1 and R4, I would make them as close to R2 and R3 as possible--but how close I do not know. I presume calculating the optimum values of R2 and R3 would require going beyond the approximation that "all" current goes through each of them anyway.

Any thoughts--or perhaps I should start a new thread for that?
 

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