Calculating the Primitive of sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4 using Substitution Method

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the integral of the function sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4 using various substitution methods. Participants explore different approaches to find the primitive, including trigonometric and hyperbolic substitutions, while comparing results with those obtained from computational tools like Wolfram Alpha.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • João seeks assistance in calculating the integral of sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4 and mentions an initial substitution of x=2*sec(t) that leads to a result differing from Wolfram Alpha's output.
  • One participant suggests rewriting sin(arccos(y)) using the Pythagorean identity, indicating a potential simplification.
  • João expresses interest in finding a method to integrate the function without using trigonometric substitutions.
  • Another participant proposes using hyperbolic substitution, specifically x=2cosh(y), as an alternative approach.
  • João reiterates the desire to reach the Wolfram result without trigonometric functions, indicating a preference for a direct method.
  • A participant responds that they do not know of any method to achieve the integral without trigonometry.
  • João later confirms that he successfully solved the integral using the trigonometric substitution suggested earlier and shares a link to his complete solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a non-trigonometric method for solving the integral, with some suggesting alternatives while others indicate limitations in their knowledge of such methods.

Contextual Notes

João's initial results differ from those provided by computational tools, and there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the best method to achieve the desired result without trigonometric functions.

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Hi there people

Can anyone help me with this issue?

I'm trying to calculate this primitive

P sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4

I tried the substitution x=2*sec(t) and it seems to work but at the end I get something like:

1/6*(sin(arccos(2/x)))^3

and this is quite different from what we can observe at Wolfram which is:

((x^2-4)^(3/2)) / (12x^3)


Can anyone give me some suggestion?

Thanks in advance!

João

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Well, try to rewrite sin (arccos(y)), using the relation:
[tex]sin^{2}x+\cos^{2}x=1, x=arccos(y)[/tex]
 
Thank you very much... it seems to work, but there is any other way to integrate sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4 without trigonometric functions, making it directly without the transformation x=a*sec(t) ?

Thank you

João

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Well, you might use the hyperbolic substitution, x=2cosh(y)
 
Ok... I will try, but I was trying to figure out how to reach the result ((x^2-4)^(3/2)) / (12x^3) given by Wolfram, which I suppose is correct, without trigonometric functions, since the result does not involve any trigonometry...
 
Thank you very much

But kindly look at this:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+sqrt(x^2-4)/x^4

There's any way of calculating this integral without using trigonometry?

Thank you in advance

João
 
Not that I know of.
 

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